Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. I doubt it, but if you really want promote closed source software, go ahead and keep whining. :o) Paul,

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread George Borisov
Stephen wrote: Paul, Flash is not closed source. While some of Paul's post was unnecessarily harsh, he was quite correct on this point. Adobe Flash Player _is_ closed source, as far as I know. Best regards, -- George Borisov DXSolutions Ltd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:43:04AM -0400, Stephen wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. I doubt it, but if you really want promote closed

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:04:13AM -0400 or thereabouts, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:43:04AM -0400, Stephen wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 02:44:07PM -0700 or thereabouts, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. No they won't -- It's actively being worked on NOW. Some things just take time. We should be rejoicing in the fact, that Adobe is now going to be supporting Linux

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 03:27:52PM +0100 or thereabouts, George Borisov wrote: Stephen wrote: Paul, Flash is not closed source. While some of Paul's post was unnecessarily harsh, he was quite correct on this point. Adobe Flash Player _is_ closed source, as far as I know. Adobe Flash

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:04:13AM -0400 or thereabouts, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:43:04AM -0400, Stephen wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread George Borisov
Stephen wrote: Adobe Flash Player is closed source, but there are other Flash Players. The specification is open source. True, but none of these players (AFAIK) support Flash 8/9 formats. (BTW, if they do then please let me know, as I am getting fed up of the, increasingly more common,

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread George Borisov
Stephen wrote: We should be rejoicing in the fact, that Adobe is now going to be supporting Linux actively in terms of Flash, and Flex. rejoicing Erm... woot? *waves a little flag* /rejoicing -- George Borisov DXSolutions Ltd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 04:27:06PM +0100 or thereabouts, George Borisov wrote: Stephen wrote: Adobe Flash Player is closed source, but there are other Flash Players. The specification is open source. True, but none of these players (AFAIK) support Flash 8/9 formats. (BTW, if they do

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:04:13AM -0400 or thereabouts, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 08:43:04AM -0400, Stephen wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44,

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote: If it were closed source, then implementations of it wouldn't be allowed to exist such as MING, the various open source players, and editors. The standard itself is

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:32:49 -0400 Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote: If it were closed source, then implementations of

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:19:57PM -0500, Jacob S wrote: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:32:49 -0400 Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote: If it were closed source, then

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:19:57PM -0500 or thereabouts, Jacob S wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:32:49 -0400 Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Nicolaus Kedegren
* Jacob S ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:32:49 -0400 Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote:

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:47:12PM -0400 or thereabouts, Carl Fink wrote: In fact, the standard is not open. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF#Licensing. In any case, Flash (which is a program) is not open-source, any more than Acrobat is just because PDF is, in fact, open. As with

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 21 August 2006 10:32, Stephen wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:49:12AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 21 August 2006 08:01, Stephen wrote: If it were closed source, then implementations of it wouldn't be allowed to exist such as MING, the various open

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread gustavo halperin
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 01:46:05AM +0300, gustavo halperin wrote: Hello It's not new that windows do every think in order to make harder our life, do you know something about a new version of Macromedia only for windows?? Macromedia was a company that doesn't

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 19 August 2006 15:46, gustavo halperin wrote: Hello It's not new that windows do every think in order to make harder our life, do you know something about a new version of Macromedia only for windows?? Adobe tends to release on Windows first and play catchup with other

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 20 August 2006 08:18, gustavo halperin wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 01:46:05AM +0300, gustavo halperin wrote: Hello It's not new that windows do every think in order to make harder our life, do you know something about a new version of Macromedia only for

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Derek
If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner.

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. I doubt it, but if you really want promote closed source software, go ahead and keep whining. :o) -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpyko5MVk2B6.pgp

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Derek
What is your problem paul?I am not promoting it,or whining.Quit being a assOn 8/20/06, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. I doubt it, but if you really want promote closed source software, go

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-20 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:29:33PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 14:44, Derek wrote: If more people complain,maybe they will release it sooner. I doubt it, but if you really want promote closed source software, go ahead and keep whining. :o) Does anyone know when/if

macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-19 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello It's not new that windows do every think in order to make harder our life, do you know something about a new version of Macromedia only for windows?? I currently have a latest version of Macromedia but in the page www.metacafe.com I can't see the videos, the page say that I need

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-19 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 01:46:05AM +0300, gustavo halperin wrote: Hello It's not new that windows do every think in order to make harder our life, do you know something about a new version of Macromedia only for windows?? Macromedia was a company that doesn't exist any more. (Bought by

Re: macromedia new windows version problem

2006-08-19 Thread Ralph Katz
On 08/19/2006, gustavo halperin wrote: I currently have a latest version of Macromedia but in the page www.metacafe.com I can't see the videos, the page say that I need download the latest version of Macromedia, but I have it. Did you know this problem? Can you see videos from www.metacafe.com