Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* martin f krafft [100816 07:33 +0200]: also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [2010.08.16.0034 +0200]: Last I checked, it is possible to have the kernel itself start the root array, via a (series of) kernel command-line arguments. However, this doesn't use mdadm or any

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 8/15/2010 5:34 PM: In 20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't be compiled into the kernel images.

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Sam Leon
On 08/16/2010 08:14 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 8/15/2010 5:34 PM: In20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com [2010.08.16.1514 +0200]: This has always been one of my hangups regarding using linux mdraid (or any soft OS raid) vs hardware raid--proper and seamless handling of a raid protected boot device, including issues beyond the topic of this thread.

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
martin f krafft put forth on 8/16/2010 10:26 AM: I prefer LSI and Intel raid cards. I should have said merely LSI as the Intel cards are licensed LSI cards. Hardware raid isn't as flexible as softraid as it works at the entire disk level, but boy is it so much easier to work with, …

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com [2010.08.16.1923 +0200]: … until your controller dies and you find out that the manufacturer does not support the firmware anymore and your data are lost. Ever heard of spares? If not you've not been in this game long. I've had cases where

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sam Leon put forth on 8/16/2010 9:49 AM: I haven't messed with windows since xp. But I do remember on xp you could not have any software raid on the same partition that you booted from. Which made it pointless... Did they change the functionality in vista or 7 or something? I was referring

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4c69742e.3080...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote: martin f krafft put forth on 8/16/2010 10:26 AM: I prefer LSI and Intel raid cards. I should have said merely LSI as the Intel cards are licensed LSI cards. Hardware raid isn't as flexible as softraid as it works at the entire disk

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net writes: In 20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. When did this change? I have a box (my NAS) that is running Debian stable (lenny) with a

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Cameron Hutchison li...@xdna.net [2010.08.17.0207 +0200]: My /dev/sd[bc]1 partitions are of type 0xFD. /dev/md0 has a version 00.90 superblock. If I upgrade this kernel, or upgrade to the new stable when it's released, is this box going to stop booting? Not for now, as long as

mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all, I've set up a new machine with sw raid1. / and /boot are on seperated arrays. raid1 support is compiled direct into 2.6.35.1. The machine is only bootable with an initramfs created by the hints in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz. How do I set up mdadm to create the root

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't be compiled into the kernel images. Therefore, to run mdadm you need an initramfs, or the file

Re: mdadm without initramfs

2010-08-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [2010.08.16.0034 +0200]: Last I checked, it is possible to have the kernel itself start the root array, via a (series of) kernel command-line arguments. However, this doesn't use mdadm or any of its configuration files. That only works