Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: I presume you have iceweasel in an i386 chroot since there's no working flash for the 64 bit? This is something I am thinking

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-19 Thread michael
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:28 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: michael: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: when I migrated to amd64, I did nothing special for flash, and it seems to just work... (Now I'm thinking I need to go check). In theory, in sid, you use

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-17 Thread michael
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-17 Thread Jochen Schulz
michael: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: when I migrated to amd64, I did nothing special for flash, and it seems to just work... (Now I'm thinking I need to go check). In theory, in sid, you use nsplugin-wrapper to allow 32bit flash to run on 64bit systems.

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-17 Thread michael
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:28 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: michael: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: when I migrated to amd64, I did nothing special for flash, and it seems to just work... (Now I'm thinking I need to go check). In theory, in sid, you use

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-16 Thread michael
On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:55:57AM +0100, michael wrote: On 16 Apr 2008, at 02:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-16 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Sam Leon
Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in /home/user will be compatible with the arch change of kde and other apps? (of course I am only talking

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/08 12:32, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in /home/user will be

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:44:27PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/15/08 12:32, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-04-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:32:26PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote: Could one easily upgrade to an amd64 system just by formating /, reinstalling with the proper arch, and then reinstalling all the apps that were installed and hopefully all the conf files in /home/user will be compatible with the

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:47:51PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... Just to follow up... yes you can migrate from i386 to amd64, but what a royal pain... lots of manual dpkg work... jumping back and forth between new and old install and chrooting into the new install to get things

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:03:56AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32:35PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you can't complete the debootstrap process without

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:23:41AM +0100, Joost Witteveen wrote: On 26/03/2008, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:13:11AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Maybe you don't came across: on the list linux.debian.ports.amd64 this was discussed several times, see, e.g., Re: In-place upgrade from i386 http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/02/msg00155.html I hadn't seen that,

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you can't complete the debootstrap process without already running a 64bit kernel. You need to be able to chroot into the new install and run *its* binaries to complete the process. That means you need

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32:35PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you can't complete the debootstrap process without already running a 64bit kernel. You need to be able to chroot into the new

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-26 Thread Joost Witteveen
On 26/03/2008, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to migrate a running system from 32 to 64

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-26 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Maybe you don't came across: on the list linux.debian.ports.amd64 this was discussed several times, see, e.g., Re: In-place upgrade from i386 http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/02/msg00155.html -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hey list, I am getting to upgrade (woo-hoo!) from my crusty old -k7 box to a shiny new core2duo blah blah blah box. That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to migrate a running system from 32 to 64

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-25 Thread David Fox
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to migrate a running system from 32 to 64 bit. I also have the opportunity to practice on my laptop

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-25 Thread David Fox
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West I've done some preliminary research and found the following links: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/index.html But that article is trying to get you to upgrade the architecture in place, which to me seems

Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 07:38:17PM -0700, David Fox wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Sackville-West That means I get to move up to 64 bit. In keeping with my personal preference to *never* reinstall, I've got an opportunity to attempt to migrate a running system from 32