On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:53 pm, Kevin Mark wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> have you thought of trying the DDR games in debian?
> apt-cache search dance
> Just curious...
I just don't have a dance pad for my PC...
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On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:16 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems
> > really silly.
>
> Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop
> huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking a
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 01:11 pm, Stefano Picchiotti wrote:
> I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have
> no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness
> will suggest you to stop.
Why not just hit "Ignore thread" in your mail reader? That seems a
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:10:22PM -0600, ABrady wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:11:39 +0100
> Stefano Picchiotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi everybody.
> >
> > I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have
> > no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hop
ABrady wrote:
It won't help. I tried it and a few sanctimonious assholes decided
they're moderators and will do as they damned well please.
As opposed to you who thinks you're a moderator? Lemme put it this way;
why do you think those of us who do go off on tangents from time to time
haven't
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:11:39 +0100
Stefano Picchiotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everybody.
>
> I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have
> no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness
> will suggest you to stop.
It won't help. I tried it
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 22:53 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
--snip--
> > Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton
> > there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the
> > new DDR machines
Hi everybody.
I suspect this conversation is more than OT here... I know I have
no right to ask you to suspend it, so let me hope your politeness
will suggest you to stop.
Bye,
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On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 20:07 +, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Wednesday, 05.01.2005 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote:
[snip]
>
> The poster generalized about 300 million people. I wouldn't like to
> generalize about anyone I don't know.
There a
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 11:16 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems
> > really silly.
>
> Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop
> huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote:
> > > > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:07:04PM +, Dave Ewart wrote:
> [1] I'm not saying the original poster was arrogant, but this topic has
> drifted somewhat. Maybe we should stop now :-)
People who are annoyed by the US annoy me. When you go to their
countries you hear a lot of "hip-hop" on the rad
Dave Ewart wrote:
Not at all. US makes up approximately 5% of the world's population.
The arrogance of some in the US [1] who believe that only the US is
important, or that "US == The World", annoys me.
[ Snip ]
The poster generalized about 300 million people. I wouldn't like to
generalize about
On Wednesday, 05.01.2005 at 11:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > So he knows what 300 million USA residents think? And yet nothing
> > of the remainder of the world's population? Doubtful.
>
> Of course. Didn't you know that we all think alike? D
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote:
>
> > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political
> > squabbles over casinos and fishing rights.
>
> Yup, here in Oregon, the Confederated Tribes of Warm S
Ron Johnson wrote:
Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? It seems
really silly.
Better than California. 'sides, when you Oregonians decide to stop
huggin' trees to actually have a job market worth speaking and, oh, letting
people into your little communte lemme know, 'kay? :
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:22, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote:
> > > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political
> > > squabbles over casinos and fishing rights.
> >
> >
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 11:56, Dave Ewart wrote:
> So he knows what 300 million USA residents think? And yet nothing of
> the remainder of the world's population? Doubtful.
Of course. Didn't you know that we all think alike? Duh!
> His original comment read "In a country of 300M people, ther
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 09:04 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> --snip--
> > Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton
> > there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the
> > new DDR machines
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
--snip--
> Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton
> there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the
> new DDR machines long before anybody else does (though it's only
> playable if you k
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Robert wrote:
> Mainstream marketing professionals are unashamedly racist in their
> appeals to the public. For example, we (in UK at least) are led to
> believe that Danes are racially superior when it comes to making lager,
> Italians at ice cream, Germans at car making,
On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 00:33 -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:28:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:24 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > > William Ballard wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > "Y'know, having Debian experience with Perl and Python on my resume in
> >
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 11:28:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:24 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > William Ballard wrote:
> [snip]
> > "Y'know, having Debian experience with Perl and Python on my resume in Las
> > Vegas really doesn't have the jobs rolling in. I mean, most pe
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:24 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> William Ballard wrote:
[snip]
> "Y'know, having Debian experience with Perl and Python on my resume in Las
> Vegas really doesn't have the jobs rolling in. I mean, most people here want
Why do so many people persist in moving to deserts? I
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote:
>
> > There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political
> > squabbles over casinos and fishing rights.
>
> Yup, here in Oregon, the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs
I was really hoping this non-Debian-related thread would have died by
now . . . .
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On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:56:48PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Yeah, except for northeast Portland, which is almost entirely black.
> Multnomah County also contains a lot of rural areas far from the city
> and the north face of Mt. Hood. It's an extremely large county
> geographically for it'
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 03:59 pm, William Ballard wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 03:32:48PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Monday 03 January 2005 11:44 am, William Ballard wrote:
> >
> > > Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I'll live in
the
> > > 90% white city. Then yo
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:24:41PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> William Ballard wrote:
> >I'm not saying "people are incapable of treating each other nicely."
> >I'm just saying is that some areas of the country, people get more
> >opportunities to succeed or fail than others.
>
> Yeah? And?
William Ballard wrote:
I'm not saying "people are incapable of treating each other nicely."
I'm just saying is that some areas of the country, people get more
opportunities to succeed or fail than others.
Yeah? And? This is news?
Of course you're not taking it the way I'm taking it. I'm
>Alvin Smith writes:
>> To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
>> product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
>What a loony notion.
>John Hasler
Why loony? It hits the nail on the head. As I understand the original
question was whether "Ubuntu" is a good
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:10:26PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> But then, I'm a white male and wouldn't know how to treat other people
> fairly. It's genetic according to the likes of you.
Okay, okay, okay. Persist in your self-delusion.
The dutch thought they were tolerant too.
I'm not sayi
William Ballard wrote:
Plus we had forced bussing, which engineered a 50% white/black
distribution in every school. My idea of diversity is to see
as many black people as I see white.
Then here's a suggestion; tell 'em to stop killing each other and pump a
few more out if that's your goal. B
On Monday 03 January 2005 11:07 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> Hmm, I thought he was most notable for the state-wide Urban Growth
> Boundaries (a good thing) and for all the out of state businesses he
> convinced to relocate to Oregon, the beginnings of the
> 'Californication' so many Oregonians were
On Monday 03 January 2005 08:43 pm, Seeker5528 wrote:
> There are the Indian Tribes with the related occasional political
> squabbles over casinos and fishing rights.
Yup, here in Oregon, the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs are going
head to head with the State because they want to bulldoz
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 03:32:48PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 03 January 2005 11:44 am, William Ballard wrote:
>
> > Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I'll live in the
> > 90% white city. Then you can demonstrate your "tolerance" and I'll
> > moralize at you.
>
> B
On Monday 03 January 2005 11:44 am, William Ballard wrote:
> Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I'll live in the
> 90% white city. Then you can demonstrate your "tolerance" and I'll
> moralize at you.
Been there, done that. Lived in Northeast Portland, which is
predominantly
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 01:07 -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 09:33:52PM -0800, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> > Maybe only a handful for sure, but they
> > do cast a wide pall.
>
> So you don't disagree that nowadays most people aren't racists in the
> south, which was the original
On Tuesday, 04.01.2005 at 10:27 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 January 2005 10:08, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 04.01.2005 at 09:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 04:26, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > > > > In a country of 300M people, [...]
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like y
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 10:08, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Tuesday, 04.01.2005 at 09:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 04:26, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > > > In a country of 300M people, [...]
> > >
> > > Sounds like you're referring to the US. Why restrict your comment
> > > to the
On Tuesday, 04.01.2005 at 09:22 -0500, Brendan wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 January 2005 04:26, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > > In a country of 300M people, [...]
> >
> > Sounds like you're referring to the US. Why restrict your comment
> > to the US? Your remark would have more credibility if you weren't
> >
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 09:53 am, Sue Spence wrote:
> Alvin Smith wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:05 am, Sue Spence wrote:
> >>This kind of problem seems to exist primarily in the minds of the
> >>sufferers (who are of all races). As such, it goes where they go.
> >
> > Do I understand
Alvin Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:05 am, Sue Spence wrote:
This kind of problem seems to exist primarily in the minds of the
sufferers (who are of all races). As such, it goes where they go.
Do I understand you correctly that you think racism exists only in the minds
of the people
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:05 am, Sue Spence wrote:
> This kind of problem seems to exist primarily in the minds of the
> sufferers (who are of all races). As such, it goes where they go.
Do I understand you correctly that you think racism exists only in the minds
of the people it is perpitrat
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 04:26, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > In a country of 300M people, [...]
>
> Sounds like you're referring to the US. Why restrict your comment to
> the US? Your remark would have more credibility if you weren't so
> US-centric.
I don't want to disrupt your obvious ploy for anti
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 21:18 +, Sue Spence wrote:
William Ballard wrote:
You need to broaden your horizons. Besides, I didn't say it's hard to be
racist if you live in a mostly-white area: I said it's easy not to be.
Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I'll l
On Sunday, 02.01.2005 at 21:53 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 21:15 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
> >
> > What a loony notion.
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 09:33:52PM -0800, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> Maybe only a handful for sure, but they
> do cast a wide pall.
So you don't disagree that nowadays most people aren't racists in the
south, which was the original point. A couple people will complain
about ubuntu being an African n
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 21:18 +, Sue Spence wrote:
> William Ballard wrote:
> >
> > You need to broaden your horizons. Besides, I didn't say it's hard to be
> > racist if you live in a mostly-white area: I said it's easy not to be.
> >
>
> I was born in and frequently spend time in a major Am
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 08:43:42PM -0800, Seeker5528 wrote:
>
> I can't spread for Oregon, but in the Tacoma area
I knew somebody was going to bring up Tacoma.
I'll grant you that Tacoma isn't lilly-white.
But a couple points: what kind of stories come on the
6 o'clock news about Tacoma? Is eve
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:24:45 -0500
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And you'll find exactly what the guy said: a few people are racist, a
> much larger number are not. And it's really easy to not be racist in
> the Pacific Northwest -- there aren't any black people to be racist
> ab
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 21:18 +, Sue Spence wrote:
> William Ballard wrote:
> >
> > You need to broaden your horizons. Besides, I didn't say it's hard to be
> > racist if you live in a mostly-white area: I said it's easy not to be.
> >
> > Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 09:18:19PM +, Sue Spence wrote:
> I was born in and frequently spend time in a major American city which
> has a "white" population of ~30%. About 60% are African-American. My
> father grew up there, and my sister still lives there. I can't say that
> we have ever fou
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 10:54 +0100, René Seindal wrote:
> Alvin Smith wrote (03-01-2005 04:01):
> > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:45 pm, Mauro Darida wrote:
> >
> >
> Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu."
> >>>
> >>>Perhaps the poster would be turned off by any n
William Ballard wrote:
You need to broaden your horizons. Besides, I didn't say it's hard to be
racist if you live in a mostly-white area: I said it's easy not to be.
Tell you what you can live in the 50% black city and I'll live in the
90% white city. Then you can demonstrate your "tolerance" an
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 09:45:24AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> No, Couer d'Alane, ID is *quite* racist despite having only one black
> person as far as I can tell. Scary place, I'm a Scottish white boy and
> I felt too black to be there. CdA is home of the KKK...
You need to broaden your hori
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 09:46 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 03 January 2005 08:48 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
>
> > Portland ranks among the top three cities I've lived in for smiles
> > from strangers, but if being 'in tune enough' is a now a requirement
> > for residency it's sadly slipped
On Monday 03 January 2005 08:48 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> Portland ranks among the top three cities I've lived in for smiles
> from strangers, but if being 'in tune enough' is a now a requirement
> for residency it's sadly slipped over the last 10 years.
What are you talking about? Portla
On Monday 03 January 2005 06:24 am, William Ballard wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 10:04:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 January 2005 07:15 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept
a
> > > > product
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 00:47 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 03 January 2005 12:15 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
>
> > How about an expired Oregon Driver's License? I've moved up and down
> > the coast over the years. By the way, experience tells me that the
> > Willamette Valley fails the 'soun
On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 10:04:39PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 02 January 2005 07:15 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
> >
> > What a loony no
Alvin Smith wrote (03-01-2005 04:01):
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:45 pm, Mauro Darida wrote:
Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu."
Perhaps the poster would be turned off by any non-english or
non-european name.
I think that ubuntu is probably a good name if you wan
On Monday 03 January 2005 12:15 am, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> How about an expired Oregon Driver's License? I've moved up and down
> the coast over the years. By the way, experience tells me that the
> Willamette Valley fails the 'sounding' test. Got a good coastal town
> that's not anti-owl? :)
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 00:04 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 02 January 2005 11:34 pm, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 21:15 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > > > product with a Blac
On Sunday 02 January 2005 11:34 pm, Rich Rudnick wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 21:15 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
> >
> > What a loony notion.
>
On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 21:15 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Alvin Smith writes:
> > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
>
> What a loony notion.
I'm a long time blue state lefty who spends most of his time with wh
On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 22:04 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 02 January 2005 07:15 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > Alvin Smith writes:
> > > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
> >
> > What a loony notion.
>
On Sunday 02 January 2005 07:15 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> Alvin Smith writes:
> > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
>
> What a loony notion.
Then you go to Idaho or the American southeast...
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Ron Johnson writes:
> In a country of 300M people, there *will* be some people who say, "It
> sounds too black."
In the US (I assume the USA is the country you refer to) there will be some
miniscule number of whackos who will avoid it because of the name. There
also will be a much larger number o
On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 21:15 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Alvin Smith writes:
> > To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> > product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
>
> What a loony notion.
In a country of 300M people, there *will* be some people who say,
"I
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:01:06 -0500
Alvin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:45 pm, Mauro Darida wrote:
>
> > > > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name,
> > > > "Ubuntu."
> > >
> >
> > > Perhaps the poster would be turned off by any non-english or
>
Alvin Smith writes:
> To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a
> product with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
What a loony notion.
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 10:01:06PM -0500, Alvin Smith wrote:
> To put it bluntly, the issue is whether white people will accept a product
> with a Black African "sounding" name or not.
Nah, that's not it. It doesn't have an "h" in it.
That makes it not-very-African sounding.
I never thought a
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:45 pm, Mauro Darida wrote:
> > > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu."
> >
>
> > Perhaps the poster would be turned off by any non-english or
> > non-european name.
>
> I think that ubuntu is probably a good name if you want to
> sell in
Alvin writes:
> "you [p/b]unt too", meaning you can't do it, so you pawn it off to someone
> else to get it done, or in baseball, bunting is a good thing, to sacrifice
> oneself
> "bunt" is too similar with "punt"
That's straining really hard.
Ubuntu has no negative connotation that I know
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Seeker5528 wrote:
> In what western language is there a word that sounds like ubuntu that has a
> negative meaning?
"you [p/b]unt too", meaning you can't do it, so you pawn it off to someone
else to get it done, or in baseball, bunting is a good thing, to sacrifice
oneself
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:45:57 +0100
Mauro Darida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that ubuntu is probably a good name if you want to
> sell in africa but certainly not a good choice if you want to sell in
> the western world.
In what western language is there a word that sounds like ubuntu tha
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 23:45 +0100, Mauro Darida wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 at 18:12:18 +, Sam Watkins wrote:
> > > > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named
> > > > _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 at 18:12:18 +, Sam Watkins wrote:
> > > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing named
> > > _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu.
> >
> > Yeah, I've gotta admit, I'm a bit turned off by the name, "Ubuntu."
>
> I think Ubuntu is a g
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 at 20:12:43 +, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 08:17:03PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:
> > On Dec 26 2004, Mauro Darida wrote:
> > > The folks there should change the name: I would never use a thing
> > > named _ubuntu_. Btw, Hurd is a name as horrible as ubuntu.
>
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