Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Alex == Alex Yukhimets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was some brief discussion of calling Debian 2.0 woody, after the main character of the movie, but we quickly realized the possible unwanted confusion that would result. An american, heh? It has some rather, ... umm.., unwholesome

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
Another criteria for code names - they should be short enough to be quick and easy to type, thus minimizing typos. IMNSHO hamm is at least one letter too long. Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread jghasler
How about Taurus, Accord, or Jetta? Do they mean anything about cars? No... They're just names of products. It's the same for Debian. I thought that the name of the current product was Debian 1.31. Not to mention that the codenames used in Debian are supposed to keep people away from

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread David M
Well since this seems to be such a hot topic ;) I felt I should give my opinion. Well here it goes I think the current naming convention is fine. :-) Of course the symlinks *have* to be there to make things clear to everyone. And despite not being a developer I still love to know

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread jghasler
Robert D. Hilliard writes: Another criteria for code names - they should be short enough to be quick and easy to type, thus minimizing typos. IMNSHO hamm is at least one letter too long. Ah. Well, that's easy, then. Just call them a, b, c, -- John HaslerThis posting is

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Jul 23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I thought that the name of the current product was Debian 1.31. No. The name of the current product is bo. It is also known as Debian 1.3.1 (there is no such thing as Debian 1.31). It's like my name is Antti-Juhani, but some people have the (irritating) habit

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread Dave Restall
Hi, firstly :- Sorry about perpetuating this thread. Secondly :- Thanks for a well cool system to all the people who made it possible whatever the name is :-) I have yet to hear a developer say they are confused. In fact, this is the first time I have heard *anyone* say they are

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Dave == Dave Restall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave This is essentially the point. As an end user I find the names Dave confusing. It would help me as an end user if instead of Dave posters saying :- Dave I'm using package XYZ from bilbo(or whatever the codename of Dave the release is) and

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread jghasler
Antti-Juhani writes: No. The name of the current product is bo. Then why is it not being labeled and advertised as such? If stable pointed to unreleased, it would make people confused. Why would casual visitors ever notice that stable and internal-1.3.1 point to the same directory? Let's

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-24 Thread jghasler
manoj writes: I, on behalf of the Debian developers, apologize for the inconvenience caused. Thank you for admitting that the inconvenience exists. Perhaps the developers could make an effort to avoid using the names outside the developer list? It's not clear to me that anyone but the site

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread jghasler
I wrote: unreleased-1.3 and unreleased-2.0 would be more useful and less confusing. Rick Hawkins writes: but not nearly so cool :) If you say so. I just find them obscure. besides, this way they stay buzz, bo, hamm, etc. after release, and the symlinks for stable unstable are just

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Buddha Buck
John Hasler writes: Buddha Buck writes: It was seen that one reason for this was that someone looking at the FTP site, seeing a directory with a numbered version would think that that version was ready for release. A policy decision was made to name releases while in development, and

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Buddha Buck
John Hasler writes: Buddha Buck writes: It was seen that one reason for this was that someone looking at the FTP site, seeing a directory with a numbered version would think that that version was ready for release. A policy decision was made to name releases while in development, and

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread jghasler
Buddha Buck writes: Thus there are two good reasons why the distribution _name_ (be it rex or bo or unreleased-1.3) shouldn't change. Nor did I suggest that it should. Because of that, it is good to choose names that don't reflect the release status of the distribution. But why is it good

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 22 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buddha Buck writes: Thus there are two good reasons why the distribution _name_ (be it rex or bo or unreleased-1.3) shouldn't change. Nor did I suggest that it should. Because of that, it is good to choose

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread jghasler
I wrote: But why is it good to choose names that don't reflect *anything*? Scott K. Ellis writes: They do, they are the codename for the version,... What secrets are being protected by this code? ...similar to the codenames that Microsoft... Oh. Well, if *Microsoft* does it, it *must* be a

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Buddha Buck
I wrote: But why is it good to choose names that don't reflect *anything*? Scott K. Ellis writes: They do, they are the codename for the version,... What secrets are being protected by this code? None. Codes don't exist just to make things secret. Code names can and do exist for

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, jghasler == jghasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jghasler Buddha Buck writes: Thus there are two good reasons why the distribution _name_ (be it rex or bo or unreleased-1.3) shouldn't change. Because of that, it is good to choose names that don't reflect the release status of the

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, jghasler == jghasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jghasler What secrets are being protected by this code? If I told you that, I would have to kill you ;-) ...similar to the codenames that Microsoft... jghasler Oh. Well, if *Microsoft* does it, it *must* be a good idea.

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Behan Webster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: But why is it good to choose names that don't reflect *anything*? Scott K. Ellis writes: They do, they are the codename for the version,... What secrets are being protected by this code? And since when does a name have to reflect anything? Does

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-23 Thread Alex Yukhimets
There was some brief discussion of calling Debian 2.0 woody, after the main character of the movie, but we quickly realized the possible unwanted confusion that would result. jghasler Doesn't seem any more or less confusing than bo, rex, jghasler etc. An american, heh? It has

naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread Shaleh
What is bo? hamm? Could someone explain these naming conventions to me, please. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
What is bo? hamm? Could someone explain these naming conventions to me, please. Look at where Bruce Perens works, and think about children's movies . . . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread Buddha Buck
What is bo? hamm? Could someone explain these naming conventions to me, please. Bo is a code name for the Debian 1.3 release. Hamm is a code name for the Debian 2.0 release, currently in development. Some time ago, Debian ran into a problem when a not-quite-ready development version of

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread Shaleh
Having missed the movies I missed the joke. Thanks for the explanation. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread jghasler
Buddha Buck writes: It was seen that one reason for this was that someone looking at the FTP site, seeing a directory with a numbered version would think that that version was ready for release. A policy decision was made to name releases while in development, and only number them when

Re: naming convention question

1997-07-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
unreleased-1.3 and unreleased-2.0 would be more useful and less confusing. but not nearly so cool :) besides, this way they stay buzz, bo, hamm, etc. after release, and the symlinks for stable unstable are just changed. rick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word