Johann Spies wrote:
> For many years I have used my desktp as a network/firewall server with
> two interfaces one facing the internet (through ADSL) and the other the
> local network.
>
> Now I have a fibre connection and for a month both connections will be
> available in parallel.
>
> I have deci
On Friday 09 March 2018 10:18:23 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > For many years I have used my desktp as a network/firewall server
> > with two interfaces one facing the internet (through ADSL) and the
> > other the local network.
> >
>
On 3/9/2018 3:30 PM, Johann Spies wrote:
For many years I have used my desktp as a network/firewall server with
two interfaces one facing the internet (through ADSL) and the other the
local network.
Now I have a fibre connection and for a month both connections will be
available in parallel.
I
I see I have broken the thread by adding [SOLVED] to the subject.
Just to keep it in this thread:
I have tried a third option: arno-iptables-firewall.
Now I can reach the internet from the local network. I still don't
understand why I could not
get it working with Shorewall which I have used fo
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:06:12AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> I see I have broken the thread by adding [SOLVED] to the subject.
But only because gmail is a broken mail user agent: it seems to have
dropped the In-Reply-To header. The change of subjec
On Fri 09 Mar 2018 at 12:31:35 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 09 March 2018 10:18:23 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > > For many years I have used my desktp as a network/firewall server
> > > with two interfaces one facin
On Wednesday 14 March 2018 22:24:26 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 09 Mar 2018 at 12:31:35 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 09 March 2018 10:18:23 Reco wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > > > For many years I have used my desktp
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say,
> wired bridging even though the manufacturer's formware doesn't allow
> for that?
openwrt and dd-wrt both allow wired bridging[1] (or pseudo-bridging by
routing if your wireless hardw
On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say,
> > wired bridging even though the manufacturer's formware doesn't allow
> > for that?
>
> openwrt and dd-wrt both allo
On Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:42:25 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that allow it to do, say,
> > > wired bridging even though the manufacturer's fo
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:26:38 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:42:25 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > > > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that a
On Friday, March 16, 2018 04:48:50 AM Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:26:38 -0400
> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
...
> > I haven't paid attention to this thread from the beginning, but
> > looking at the sketch, I'm wondering what the purpose of the 2nd
> > router is? Why not instead of a route
On Friday, March 16, 2018 08:53:00 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> I haven't had the need to do that, and I'm not quite sure how I would go
> about it, but (thinking on the fly now), I might try putting a switch
> immediately after the modem, with two routers plugged into that, then a
> router and o
David Wright wrote:
>
> --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
>> > When you reprogram routers with dd-w
Joe wrote:
> [...]
> I'd have thought that hardwired hubs are long gone, that all devices
> with multiple Ethernet ports are switches and therefore software-based.
> Indeed, many routers can be configured as VLANs.
Hubs pretty much are. Not entirely sure where you're thinking switches
are "softwa
On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 23:26:38 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:42:25 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > > > When you reprogram routers with dd-wrt, does that a
On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 13:09:00 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> >
> > --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > Content-Disposition: inline
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> >> On We
On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 08:48:50 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:26:38 -0400
> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, March 15, 2018 09:42:25 PM David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > 1: I suppose there might be some network hardware which doesn't
> > support actual bridging of wired interfaces, but I've yet to see
> > such an example.
>
> I think the router I've been usi
On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 10:24:36 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > 1: I suppose there might be some network hardware which doesn't
> > > support actual bridging of wired interfaces, but I've
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 10:24:36 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > The software might not support it, but if openwrt or ddwrt can run
> > on the hardware, they should support bridging.
>
> I can make sure the router I buy can run openwrt or ddwrt, but it
>
On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 12:49:16 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 10:24:36 (-0700), Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > The software might not support it, but if openwrt or ddwrt can run
> > > on the hardware, they should support bridging.
> >
David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 16 Mar 2018 at 13:09:00 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>> >
>> > --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> > Content-Disposition: inline
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> >
>> > On Thu 15 Mar 2018 at 10:18:20 (-0700), D
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:13:30 - (UTC)
Dan Purgert wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > [...]
> > I'd have thought that hardwired hubs are long gone, that all devices
> > with multiple Ethernet ports are switches and therefore software-based.
> > Indeed, many routers can be configured as VLANs.
>
> Hubs pr
Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:13:30 - (UTC)
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> Joe wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > I'd have thought that hardwired hubs are long gone, that all devices
>> > with multiple Ethernet ports are switches and therefore software-based.
>> > Indeed, many routers can be configur
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
Dan Purgert wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:13:30 - (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert wrote:
> >
> >> Joe wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> > I'd have thought that hardwired hubs are long gone, that all devices
> >> > with multiple Ethernet ports are swi
Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> Yep, you've got the terms right.
>>
>> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other clients close to it?
>> or is it JUST trying to pretend that it's a client device to the
>> TP-Link?
>
> I'm no
On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 10:00:31 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Yep, you've got the terms right.
> >>
> >> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other clients close to it?
> >> or is it J
David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 10:00:31 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Celejar wrote:
>> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
>> > Dan Purgert wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> Yep, you've got the terms right.
>> >>
>> >> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other client
On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 16:26:47 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 10:00:31 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> Celejar wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
> >> > Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> >> [...]
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep, you've got the terms righ
David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 16:26:47 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>>
>> It's a nuance in the semantics of what it means to "repeat" wifi.
>> Suffice to say, in order to "repeat" wifi, you have one radio splitting
>> its time between pretending to be an AP for a client device, and
>>
On Sat 07 Apr 2018 at 20:17:56 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 16:26:47 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> >>
> >> It's a nuance in the semantics of what it means to "repeat" wifi.
> >> Suffice to say, in order to "repeat" wifi, you have one radio splitting
>
David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 07 Apr 2018 at 20:17:56 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>> > On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 16:26:47 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's a nuance in the semantics of what it means to "repeat" wifi.
>> >> Suffice to say, in order to "repeat" wifi, you
On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 10:00:31 - (UTC)
Dan Purgert wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Yep, you've got the terms right.
> >>
> >> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other clients close to it?
> >> or is it
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 00:32:05 - (UTC)
Dan Purgert wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> > On Sat 07 Apr 2018 at 20:17:56 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> David Wright wrote:
> >> > On Fri 06 Apr 2018 at 16:26:47 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a nuance in the semantics of what it mea
Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 10:00:31 - (UTC)
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> Celejar wrote:
>> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC)
>> > Dan Purgert wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> Yep, you've got the terms right.
>> >>
>> >> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other client
Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 00:32:05 - (UTC)
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>> If you have a device repeating a WiFi signal, it *will* use the same
>> channel as the upstream AP. It *cannot* use a different channel.
>>
>> In the event you have a dual-band AP, and the following conditions are
>
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 10:21:46 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 00:32:05 - (UTC)
> > Dan Purgert wrote:
> >> If you have a device repeating a WiFi signal, it *will* use the same
> >> channel as the upstream AP. It *cannot* use a different channel.
> >>
> >>
Hi.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 09:17:06AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 10:21:46 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Celejar wrote:
> > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 00:32:05 - (UTC)
> > > Dan Purgert wrote:
> > >> If you have a device repeating a WiFi signal, it *will* use the s
David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 10:21:46 (-), Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Well, nice that they're starting to do that ... it's still a Linksys, so
>> (not having any experience with it either), I'd lean toward it not being
>> that great of a device.
>
> That's a shame. I was moving toward
Reco wrote:
> Back in the day I used two Raspberry Pi for improving WiFi coverage.
> It was very straightforward, although somewhat unconventional
> configuration - two WiFi APs with the same SSID ('AP name' in layman
> terms), each brigded to the same wired VLAN. Worked better than I was
> anticip
On Saturday, April 14, 2018 03:57:08 AM Reco wrote:
> Back in the day I used two Raspberry Pi for improving WiFi coverage.
> It was very straightforward, although somewhat unconventional
> configuration - two WiFi APs with the same SSID ('AP name' in layman
> terms), each brigded to the same wired
Hi.
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 08:05:12AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 03:57:08 AM Reco wrote:
> > Back in the day I used two Raspberry Pi for improving WiFi coverage.
> > It was very straightforward, although somewhat unconventional
> > configuration - two W
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 12:48:35 PM Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 08:05:12AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 14, 2018 03:57:08 AM Reco wrote:
> > > Back in the day I used two Raspberry Pi for improving WiFi coverage.
> > > It was very straightforward
*' # might be empty
systemctl status systemd-networkd
ip a # short for 'ip address'
ip r # short for 'ip route'
3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might have
done to your network configuration after installing buster, including
but not limited to
of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> /etc/network/interfaces.d/
>
> (I seem to recall you are using ifupdown)
>
> 2. Full output of:
> apt list --installed 'network-manager*' # might be empty
> apt list --installed 'avahi*' # might be empty
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-07-04 04:42 (UTC-0400):
> every release newer than wheezy has made it progressively
> more difficult to make a staticly defined network work.
Given the myriad of successes in your 8+ decades, I'm baffled that you are
continually flummoxed by fixed IP networking. Mayb
On Thursday 04 July 2019 05:25:05 Felix Miata wrote:
> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-07-04 04:42 (UTC-0400):
> > every release newer than wheezy has made it progressively
> > more difficult to make a staticly defined network work.
>
> Given the myriad of successes in your 8+ decades, I'm baffled t
On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make me
use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows the
address of ALL the other machines on my local 192.168.xx.nn/24 network.
Using dhcp means I'd have to setup a 2nd th
On Thursday 04 July 2019 06:15:56 mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>
> > Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make
> > me use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows
> > the address of ALL the other machines on my local 1
445:918c:cf73:6a79/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: wlan0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether b8:27:eb:86:12:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> ip r # short for 'ip route'
pi@picnc:~ $ ip r
default dev eth0
Hi.
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > And Gene moved. Question unanswered
On 2019-07-04 15:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Thursday 04 July 2019 06:15:56 mick crane wrote:
On 2019-07-04 09:42, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Sorry, I don't see it that way, I see a concentrated effort to make
> me use dhcpd, instead of static, every machine in the system knows
> the address of ALL
On Thursday 04 July 2019 12:18:13 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:40:30AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wr
On 7/4/19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote:
>> >
>> > And Gene moved. Question unanswered yet.
>> >
>> > > Hi.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jul
On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
[...]
> I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e. 'apt
> purge avahi-daemon'. Really simplifies things. Not installing this
> software in the first place works even better.
Gene Heskett can follow this advice if he wishes
On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e.
> > 'apt
> > purge avahi-daemon'. Really simplifies things. Not installing this
> > software in the first place wo
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with extreme prejudice, i.e.
> > > 'apt
> > > purge avahi-daemon'. Really sim
On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > As always, all generalizations suck. Some do avahi, others don't (full
> > disclosure: I am in the "don't" camp, as many may have guessed :-)
>
> If nobody objects I w
On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> pi@picnc:~ $ cat /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
Is below the literal output of the cat above?
Please post also /etc/network/interfaces.
> auto eth0
>
>
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:05:09 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > I'd also consider exterminating avahi with e
On Jo, 04 iul 19, 04:42:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > 3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might
> > have done to your network configuration after installing buster,
> > i
On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > >
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 19:18:13 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:44:14 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > As always, all generalizations suck. Some do avahi, others don't
> > > (full disclosure: I am in th
On 2019-07-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> pi@picnc:/ $ sudo apt update
> Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease [15.0 kB]
> Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease [25.1 kB]
> Reading package lists... Done
> E: Release file for
> http://raspbian.raspberr
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> >
> > pi@picnc:~ $ cat /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
>
> Is below the literal output
On Thursday 04 July 2019 23:54:21 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jo, 04 iul 19, 04:42:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 3. Information on anything (and I do mean anything) else you might
> > >
On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 20:01 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > > On Th
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:35:53)
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 23:54:21 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Just the fact that you are running Raspbian instead of pure Debian
> > is already an important clue and possibly a major hindrance in
> > helping you (we don't know what other custom
On Fri, 2019-07-05 at 06:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
[...]
> > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's here), or
> > you don't need its functions (I'm here) - you just do not install it.
> > You don't fight with it, you don't try to
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must physically remove it
> before a staticly defined, hosts file based
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a u-sd,
so far, so good...
> so you get that crap regardless and must physically remove i
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > The idea
> > > that
> > >
> > > > Not installing this software in the first place works even
> > > > better.
> > >
> > > requires clarification.
> >
> > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's her
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> an /etc/nsswitch.conf, even though ts been purged.
... what.
Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part o
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:33:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Here is your Clarification: I used apt to purge avahi-daemon which
> took nsswitch with it,
Let's test this assertion.
wooledg:~$ ls -l /etc/nss*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 545 Apr 1 08:58 /etc/nsswitch.conf
wooledg:~$ sudo cp /etc/ns
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> > posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> > an /etc/nsswitch.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:02:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part of any Debian package.
>
> Actually, nsswitch.conf is created by postinst script of libc-bin
> package, to technically nsswitch.conf is a
On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:36 Curt wrote:
> On 2019-07-05, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > pi@picnc:/ $ sudo apt update
> > Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease
> > [15.0 kB] Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster
> > InRelease [25.1 kB] Reading package lists... D
On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:42:11PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 04 Jul 2019 at 22:05:09 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 08:56:45PM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > > > > On
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:29:52 Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-07-05 at 06:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 02:56:39 Reco wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Easy. You don't understand what the software does (Gene's here),
> > > or you don't need its functions (I'm here) - you just do not
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
>
> > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> > dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> > u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must ph
On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:55 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there by
> > dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually a
> > u-sd,
>
> so far, so
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all files under
> > > > /etc/network/interfaces.d/
> > >
> > > pi@pic
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54)
> On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> >
> > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there
> > > by dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, usually
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 11:11:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
> >
> > > Second, contrary to the popular thinking here, the world does not
> > > start and does not end with GNOME and x86 along with t
On 7/5/19, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 05 July 2019 05:13:48 Brian wrote:
>
>> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 09:56:39 +0300, Reco wrote:
>>
>> > Third, whatever good avahi does is limited to a single L2 network
>> > segment by the very definition of how it works. This particular
>> > problem shows it
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:17:16 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:54:05AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > The idea
> > > > that
> > > >
> > > > > Not installing this software in the first place works even
> > > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > requires clarification.
> > >
>
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
>
> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
> > users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't. The idea
> > that
> >
> > > Not installing this so
On 7/5/19, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
>>
>> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
>> > users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't. The idea
>> > that
>>
On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 16:17:11 -0400, Lee wrote:
> On 7/5/19, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> >>
> >> > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many, many
> >> > users will have a
On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of
> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong technical grounds but by
> an appeal to tradition and emotion.
Some other people always try to skirt a sound tec
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:41:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 06:35:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > yup, and if the repos were open... They are not as I've previously
> > posted. I can report that apt --purge does not, I still see
> > an /etc/nsswitch.conf, even though ts bee
On Friday 05 July 2019 08:59:41 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:33:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Here is your Clarification: I used apt to purge avahi-daemon which
> > took nsswitch with it,
>
> Let's test this assertion.
>
>
> wooledg:~$ ls -l /etc/nss*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root
On Friday 05 July 2019 09:17:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 04:02:36PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 08:41:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Gene, /etc/nsswitch.conf is NOT part of any Debian package.
> >
> > Actually, nsswitch.conf is created by postinst s
On Friday 05 July 2019 12:08:45 David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 06:06:30 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:48:56 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jo, 04 iul 19, 11:40:30, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > 1. content of /etc/network/interfaces and all file
On Friday 05 July 2019 13:00:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54)
>
> > On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05)
> > >
> > > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there
> > > >
On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 04:33:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 July 2019 16:42:11 Brian wrote:
> > > If nobody objects I would like to reword that statement. Many,
> > > many users will have avahi-daemon on their systems; a few won't.
>
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