Re: Sarge release date [Was: Installing D-Link DGE-530T Gigabit NIC on an Woody 3.0r5 after Install.]

2005-06-13 Thread Colin Ingram
Siju George wrote: I have downloaded sarge today and am going to install it so I'll let you know the details soon. I happened to see something strange though! You should probably start a new thread with your new topic. You have a better chance of getting a response from people other than

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-09 Thread Jim Hall
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday June 8 2005 12:17 pm, Jim Hall wrote: Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? It depends. Do you want to track Sarge or stable? Stable is always the current release, Sarge is always Sar

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-09 Thread Jim Hall
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday June 8 2005 1:32 pm, Jim Hall wrote: Sounds good. Next link in the chain, will I have to use 'dist-upgrade'? Yes, though you might find visual representation of what you're doing helpful. You might want to do this instead: apt-get install aptitude Then,

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Brian Nelson
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:08:20PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:27:55PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > Yesterday on the chat rooms it was claimed that using aptitude was more > > successful and effective than using apt-get dist-upgrade. Apparently > > aptitude is suppo

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday June 8 2005 5:27 pm, Tom Allison wrote: > Yesterday on the chat rooms it was claimed that using aptitude was > more successful and effective than using apt-get dist-upgrade. > Apparently aptitude is supposed to do the conflict resolution > better than dist-upgrade or apt-get. apt is

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday June 8 2005 1:32 pm, Jim Hall wrote: > Sounds good. Next link in the chain, will I have to use > 'dist-upgrade'? Yes, though you might find visual representation of what you're doing helpful. You might want to do this instead: apt-get install aptitude Then, once that is installed,

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday June 8 2005 12:17 pm, Jim Hall wrote: > Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' > to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? It depends. Do you want to track Sarge or stable? Stable is always the current release, Sarge is always Sarge. -- Paul Johnson

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:08:20PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I strongly suspect that this is pure BS. I have never had a problem with > conflict resolution with either flavors of dist-upgrade, namely > apt-get dist-upgrade and > aptitude dist-upgrage. Both work for me. > Furthermore, the cod

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:27:55PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Jim Hall wrote: > >Lee Braiden wrote: > > > >>On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 20:17, Jim Hall wrote: > >> > >>>Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to > >>>"stable", or leave Sarge as the target? > >> > >> > >> >

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Tom Allison
Jim Hall wrote: Lee Braiden wrote: On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 20:17, Jim Hall wrote: Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? No, you can do nothing, if you like. Pointing it to "stable" would only do something once the

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:32:31PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > Sounds good. Next link in the chain, will I have to use 'dist-upgrade'? > Those times I've used it have usually had bad results. If I can continue > to manually repair what's 'held back', that seems safer to me. A dist-upgrade should be

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:45:45PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote: > On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 20:17, Jim Hall wrote: > > Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to > > "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? > > No, you can do nothing, if you like. > > Pointing it to "stable

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Jim Hall
Lee Braiden wrote: On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 20:17, Jim Hall wrote: Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? No, you can do nothing, if you like. Pointing it to "stable" would only do something once the next release happen

Re: Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Lee Braiden
On Wednesday 08 Jun 2005 20:17, Jim Hall wrote: > Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to > "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? No, you can do nothing, if you like. Pointing it to "stable" would only do something once the next release happens. Then, the new "s

Clarify Sarge Release

2005-06-08 Thread Jim Hall
Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade' to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target? Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Christopher Smiga
I forgot to mention that it also says... "If you installed other than from a CD or DVD (for example, netboot, or booting from floppy and installing the base system from the network), you are not affected by this bug." Christopher Hal Vaughan wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2005 03:54 pm,

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Christopher Smiga
The note says "If you have already installed a system using a 3.1r0 CD/DVD image, you do not need to reinstall. Instead, simply edit /etc/apt/sources.list, look for any lines mentioning security.debian.org, change "testing" to "stable", and remove "# " from the start of the line." So I

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 03:54 pm, Christopher Smiga wrote: > I saw this on a mirror site earlier today. > > - > > > Note: 3.1r0 CD image problem > > A bug has been discovered in the 3.1r0 CD/DVD images: new installs from > these images will have a commented-out entry in /etc/apt/sources.l

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Christopher Smiga
I saw this on a mirror site earlier today. - Note: 3.1r0 CD image problem A bug has been discovered in the 3.1r0 CD/DVD images: new installs from these images will have a commented-out entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for "http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates" rather than an active e

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-07 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 20:27 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I took the occasion of this release to review my sources.list and preferences. > In the process I did some experiments and found a puzzle that I hope > someone will explain. > > With sarge in my sources.list I have nothing to download beca

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Paul E Condon
I took the occasion of this release to review my sources.list and preferences. In the process I did some experiments and found a puzzle that I hope someone will explain. With sarge in my sources.list I have nothing to download because I have been tracking sarge for almost a year. But I set source

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:24:30PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Clive Menzies wrote: > >A message to all those responsible for the sarge release: > >http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/credits > >Many thanks for all your brilliant work accomplished with generosity and &g

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Geoff Thurman
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:36:37PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: > Hi > > A message to all those responsible for the sarge release: > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/credits > > Many thanks for all your brilliant work accomplished with generosity and > patience. &

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Joe Potter
Tom Allison wrote: > > Should I be concerned that my link to > > http://non-us.debian.org testing/non-US/non-free > and other 'non-us.debian.org' URLs? > > It seems that a lot of things are not responding. Is this the result of > 38000 users all trying to access the exact same server? > > T

Re: Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Tom Allison
Clive Menzies wrote: Hi A message to all those responsible for the sarge release: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/credits Many thanks for all your brilliant work accomplished with generosity and patience. A very grateful user ;) Clive Should I be concerned that my link to http

Sarge release

2005-06-06 Thread Clive Menzies
Hi A message to all those responsible for the sarge release: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/credits Many thanks for all your brilliant work accomplished with generosity and patience. A very grateful user ;) Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To

Re: Please add support for Broadcom 440x NIC to sarge release

2005-05-27 Thread David Goodenough
I think it may just be a problem of adding the right PCI ID to sarge. I had this problem with a broadcom chip in a laptop, and raised a bug against debian-installer and they added the ID. b44 is certainly available as a module, it just need to be recognised as the right module for this ID. So r

Re: Please add support for Broadcom 440x NIC to sarge release

2005-05-26 Thread Shreyas Ananthan
Michael Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you have probably recieved this before but i would really appreciate > it if you added support for the broadcom 440x nic in the upcoming > release of sarge. You need to modprobe kernel module b44 which is available as a module in the default sarge ker

Re: Please add support for Broadcom 440x NIC to sarge release

2005-05-25 Thread Marty
Michael Patrick wrote: you have probably recieved this before but i would really appreciate it if you added support for the broadcom 440x nic in the upcoming release of sarge. That's a kernel issue. Debian developers have no control over the kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Please add support for Broadcom 440x NIC to sarge release

2005-05-25 Thread Michael Patrick
you have probably recieved this before but i would really appreciate it if you added support for the broadcom 440x nic in the upcoming release of sarge.

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Brian Nelson
On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 03:21:00PM -0500, John Fleming wrote: > > because the final Sarge "will be ready when it will be ready", and it will > be > > _good_ and _stable_ > > That's what's really important, no? > > Really naive question - Could recently-released SpamAssassin 3.0 still make > it int

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Brian Nelson
On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:36:22AM -0700, Jianbo Wang wrote: > Does anyone know the frozen, release data of sarge? Thanks! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/09/msg5.html -- Blast you and your estrogenical treachery! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Sylvain Vedrenne
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 22:21, John Fleming wrote: > > _good_ and _stable_ > > That's what's really important, no? > > Really naive question It depends what "_good_" means, don't you think? > - Could recently-released SpamAssassin 3.0 still make > it into Sarge, or is that way too new and

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread John Fleming
> because the final Sarge "will be ready when it will be ready", and it will be > _good_ and _stable_ > That's what's really important, no? Really naive question - Could recently-released SpamAssassin 3.0 still make it into Sarge, or is that way too new and not enough time to make it into Sarge? I

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Paul Johnson
<#secure method=pgp mode=sign> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jianbo Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know the frozen, release data of sarge? Thanks! If we did, it would be on Debian.org. That being said, this is open source, it doesn't matter if it's released or no

Re: sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Sylvain Vedrenne
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 18:36, Jianbo Wang wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know the frozen, release data of sarge? Thanks! > > Regards! > > Jianbo Hello Jianbo, We can only make forecasts based on the following figures: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ because the final Sarge "wi

sarge release

2004-09-22 Thread Jianbo Wang
Hi, Does anyone know the frozen, release data of sarge? Thanks! Regards! Jianbo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: embedded development vs. GPL (was: Re: Sarge Release?)

2004-08-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 11:54:33AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > On Wed, August 11, 2004 5:58, James said: > > > Let's face it, most of linux's problems are a result on not being > > about to recruit a sufficient talent pool of low level embedded > > developers. Most of those that do convert (after a

Re: embedded development vs. GPL (was: Re: Sarge Release?)

2004-08-11 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:54:33 -0600 (MDT) "Nate Duehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, August 11, 2004 5:58, James said: > > > Let's face it, most of linux's problems are a result on not being > > about to recruit a sufficient talent pool of low level embedded > > developers. Most of those th

embedded development vs. GPL (was: Re: Sarge Release?)

2004-08-11 Thread Nate Duehr
On Wed, August 11, 2004 5:58, James said: > Let's face it, most of linux's problems are a result on not being > about to recruit a sufficient talent pool of low level embedded > developers. Most of those that do convert (after a convoluted learning > path) end up at a proprietary shop that puts li

Re: Sarge Release?

2004-08-11 Thread Wim De Smet
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:30:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thus spake Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I've googled around but can seem to find a date for the release of > > > Sarge as stable. Anyone have any guesses? > > >

Re: Sarge Release?

2004-08-10 Thread dbarker
Thus spake Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've googled around but can seem to find a date for the release of > > Sarge as stable. Anyone have any guesses? > > Sometime around Christmas 2003. So it's already nearly 8 months late...:-) Didn't I see a

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Chris Metzler: > On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:34:16 +0100 (BST) > Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sick to death of this "voting" business. Sarge will be released When > > Uh, WTF? This concerns a vote the developers were having on what Marvelous. Excellent. Some of u

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > were voting on this topic. The developers decided they needed to > address this issue (and I think they were right). Why does that > trouble you so? It doesn't trouble me, per se. I just wish all the red-tape, squabbling, arguing would stop, so th

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:34:16 +0100 (BST) Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sick to death of this "voting" business. Sarge will be released When > It's Ready, and not a moment sooner. If that's too late for you, then > tough. Either dist-upgrade to (the current) testing, or backport eve

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread S.D.A.
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 09:32:04AM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > I couldn't care less when sarge goes stable. Take your time guys. No > rush! You did such a great job on woody, it would be a shame to give > up on it now. :-) Hear, Hear. I for one like the 'when it's ready" ap

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Thomas Adam: > > I'm sick to death of this "voting" business. Sarge will be released When That's a very good point. For those who _just can't wait_ for sarge to go stable, I say nuts to you! There are many options for you, including sarge and sid, and Libranet, Xandros, Morphix, .

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 02:34:16PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > I'm sick to death of this "voting" business. Sarge will be released When > It's Ready, and not a moment sooner ... The vote isn't about whether it's ready, it's about whether to discard the current Sarge and start from scratch. > ...

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-03 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Kent Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my vote if it doesnt blow up woody. (ducking) ;) > - Original Message - > From: "Travis Crump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian User List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, July

Re: sarge release vote

2004-07-02 Thread Kent Andersen
my vote if it doesnt blow up woody. (ducking) ;) - Original Message - From: "Travis Crump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian User List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 12:24 AM Subject: sarge release vote -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

sarge release vote

2004-07-02 Thread Travis Crump
For those that don't know, Option 2, postpone editorial changes to Social Contract until after Sarge releases, won the vote so hopefully Sarge's release can start to move forward again and happen in the not too distant future. :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Sarge release date

2004-03-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:08:47AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Does anyone have any idea when Debian Sarge will be released as stable? > I know, it will be released when it's ready, but I am setting up a > schedule here for my tasks, and even if I could have an approximate > date of it's release

Sarge release date

2004-03-09 Thread Aryan Ameri
Hi there: Does anyone have any idea when Debian Sarge will be released as stable? I know, it will be released when it's ready, but I am setting up a schedule here for my tasks, and even if I could have an approximate date of it's release, it would help alot. Cheers -- Aryan Ameri -- To U

Re: Sarge release date

2003-11-07 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:10:56 -0800, Ralph Bacolod wrote: > Hi! When is sarge release date? When it is ready. For more information, follow the debian-release list and http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ . This really ought to be in the FAQ. Ray -- "Perhaps they spent some of

Sarge release date

2003-11-07 Thread Ralph Bacolod
Hi! When is sarge release date? Would I still be able to install to install debian in a minimal spec system such as a pentium with only 32 mb ram? Rafiks __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

Re: Sarge Release Date

2003-03-31 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 10:28:07AM -0500, David Krider wrote: > Please note that I'm NOT trolling or looking to start a flamewar. It's > just that it took me three tries to get Woody installed. I've heard that > Sarge will have a new installer and a new manual. In that case, don't worry about it.

Re: Sarge Release Date

2003-03-30 Thread Michael Mueller
On Sunday 30 March 2003 10:28, David Krider wrote: > Please note that I'm NOT trolling or looking to start a flamewar. It's > just that it took me three tries to get Woody installed. I've heard that > Sarge will have a new installer and a new manual. I'm looking to get a > feel for the timeframe.

Re: Sarge Release Date

2003-03-30 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 10:28, David Krider wrote: > I realize that there's no official release date for Sarge, but does > anyone have a guesstimate of when it might actually be? I'm not looking > for a day, per se, but 3 months? Six months? A year? > > Please note that I'm NOT trolling or looking t

Sarge Release Date

2003-03-30 Thread David Krider
I realize that there's no official release date for Sarge, but does anyone have a guesstimate of when it might actually be? I'm not looking for a day, per se, but 3 months? Six months? A year? Please note that I'm NOT trolling or looking to start a flamewar. It's just that it took me three tries t