Re: tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:44:54AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > Do people use tape drives for backup ? Only in places that need vast amounts of data stored for a very long time with restores being rare. Restoration is slow with tapes. Even a low end LTO drive will set you back thousa

Re: tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread mick crane
On 2020-08-12 11:58, Dan Ritter wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open should be helpful to you. cheers mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread Dan Ritter
ot the tapes. That rivals - and may > surpass - the build-from-parts cost of my entire computer, which is > already nearly half storage by dollars spent. > > It's possible things have changed since then, but I'd be surprised if > tape drives were economical enough to be practical in a n

Re: tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > Do people use tape drives for backup ? > I saved data to tape before but I think they were DAT and not very big but > see that these LTO-2 tapes are 600Gb and not expensive. > Do people use those ? Yes. However, my company has switched over to using disk storage

Re: tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-08-12 at 06:44, mick crane wrote: > Do people use tape drives for backup ? > I saved data to tape before but I think they were DAT and not very big > but see that these LTO-2 tapes are 600Gb and not expensive. > Do people use those ? Depends on the context you're talking

tape drives

2020-08-12 Thread mick crane
Do people use tape drives for backup ? I saved data to tape before but I think they were DAT and not very big but see that these LTO-2 tapes are 600Gb and not expensive. Do people use those ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

[OT] LTO-1 tape drives

2008-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
or so and come with a 30-day warranty. Assuming that they also have the appropriate SCSI HBA for PCI, that plus a new set of tapes should do it. Does anyone have any experience purchasing used tape drives? Is there any way to determine during the 30-day warranty period how long the drive will last

Re: [OT] LTO-1 tape drives

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Samad
. Assuming that they also have the appropriate SCSI HBA for PCI, that plus a new set of tapes should do it. Does anyone have any experience purchasing used tape drives? Is there any way to determine during the 30-day warranty period how long the drive will last? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

DDS2 tape drives and Debian

2006-12-01 Thread jpg
Hey gang, No reply. I guess I provided to much data ;) So to Simplify: Anyone ever use DDS2 tape drives? Cheers, -jpg On Mon, 20 Nov 2006, jpg == [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jpg Subject: HP C1533A DDS2 tape drive jpg From: jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpg Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:16:27 -0800

Re: DDS2 tape drives and Debian

2006-12-01 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 11:14:39AM -0800, jpg wrote: Hey gang, No reply. I guess I provided to much data ;) So to Simplify: Anyone ever use DDS2 tape drives? No. I've looked at what to use for backup and have found that a mobile hard drive (2.5) in a ruggedized enclosure (especially

Re: DDS2 tape drives and Debian

2006-12-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
Sorry to join the thread late - I use DDS3 tapes here. Can I be helpful? Andy -- Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_

Re: DDS2 tape drives and Debian

2006-12-01 Thread Raquel
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 15:47:10 -0500 (EST) Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to join the thread late - I use DDS3 tapes here. Can I be helpful? Andy I use an HP SureStore DAT8 -- DDS4 tapes. Can I help? -- Raquel I

Re: DDS2 tape drives and Debian

2006-12-01 Thread jpg
getting any stand-alone HP C1533A SCSI DAT/DDS tape drives to work with Debian. The tapes, tape drives and SCSI cables are all known good, as they were recently retired from working HP-UX systems. To date, have destroyed 3 tape drives and 10 tapes trying to get any tape media command to talk to them

Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

2004-03-01 Thread Mike Dresser
will self destruct in about a year or two of use. Sometimes silently. At least you're using a Seagate and not an HP, which will last 6-12 months if you're lucky. As for other IDE drives, I don't know of any offhand that are worth the time. SCSI DDS-3/4 tape drives are relatively cheap, especially

Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

2004-03-01 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
this tape drive will self destruct in about a year or two of use. Sometimes silently. At least you're using a Seagate and not an HP, which will last 6-12 months if you're lucky. As for other IDE drives, I don't know of any offhand that are worth the time. SCSI DDS-3/4 tape drives

Question RE IDE Tape Drives

2004-02-29 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a Debian box. My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in order to get such a drive working? My first thought would be to use the IDE-SCSI

Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

2004-02-29 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Phillip Hofmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hash: SHA1 All, I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a Debian box. My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in order to get such a drive working? My first thought would be to

Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

2004-02-29 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 at 10:34:25PM -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a Debian box. My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in order to get such

Re: SCSI DDS-2 Tape drives

2001-05-14 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 12:36:50PM +0100, Gavin Hamill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi :) I've just acquired a HP C1533A tape drive, and whilst I can successfully tar files back and forth from it, I'm poking in the dark.. I'm using 90m DDS-1 tapes, which give an uncompressed capacity of 2Gb

SCSI DDS-2 Tape drives

2001-05-11 Thread Gavin Hamill
Hi :) I've just acquired a HP C1533A tape drive, and whilst I can successfully tar files back and forth from it, I'm poking in the dark.. I'm using 90m DDS-1 tapes, which give an uncompressed capacity of 2Gb with this drive... but are there any tools to accurately measure both the data rate and

Errors with scsi DLT tape drives?

2001-04-02 Thread Dean A. Roman
Hello everybody, Anybody ever use DLT8000 tape drives with Debian before? I keep getting i/o error when I try to tar to it (/dev/st0). I have cleaned the tape drive, used different tapes, etc...nothing works? What am I doing wrong? Any ideas would be helpful? Any help would be greatly

Re: Errors with scsi DLT tape drives?

2001-04-02 Thread Nate Amsden
Dean A. Roman wrote: Hello everybody, Anybody ever use DLT8000 tape drives with Debian before? yes both DLT4000 and 8000. the backup program i use is bru(commercial). Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00 Vendor: Quantum Model: DLT4000 Rev: D782 Type: Sequential-Access

DLT8000 TAPE DRIVES and DEBIAN?

2001-03-28 Thread Dean Roman
Hello all, I am trying to use a quantum DLT8000 tape drive with my debian system. It seems to write 96K and then hangs. I see a bunch of input/output errrors . Has anybody had any luck with Quantum DLT8000 tape drives, or using Legato with Debian? The drive is scsi attached and using

Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

2000-12-19 Thread Victor R. Cain
Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what the different device designations mean, especially the /dev/nst* and /dev/st* devices? Thanks, Vic Cain -- Prediction is very hard -- especially when it's about the future -- Yogi Berra The future will be better tomorrow - J.

Re: Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

2000-12-19 Thread Andy Bastien
Pending further investigation, we now allege that Victor R. Cain wrote: Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what the different device designations mean, especially the /dev/nst* and /dev/st* devices? /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt The /dev/nst* devices are the

Re: Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

2000-12-19 Thread kmself
on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:14:45AM -0500, Andy Bastien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Pending further investigation, we now allege that Victor R. Cain wrote: Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what the different device designations mean, especially the /dev/nst* and

Re: ATAPI tape drives.

2000-04-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Edward == Edward Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edward The linux hardward compatability HOWTO at Edward http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html says the Edward following about ATAPI tape drives: ATAPI tape drives For these an alpha driver (ide-tape.c) is available

ATAPI tape drives.

2000-03-19 Thread Edward Mulholland
The linux hardward compatability HOWTO at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html says the following about ATAPI tape drives: ATAPI tape drives For these an alpha driver (ide-tape.c) is available in the kernel. ATAPI tape drives supported are Seagate TapeStor 8000 Conner CTMA

Multiple FC-10/20 cards (QIC Tape drives)?

1999-08-02 Thread Paul Miller
Is it possible to have multiple FC-10/20 (jumperless) cards in one machine? I'd like to put 3 of them in the same machine for simultaneous opperation. I'm using kernel 2.2.11pre4 with ftape and zftape compiled as modules. Thanks -Paul

ATAPI Tape Drives

1998-05-14 Thread servis
Can anybody give me any con's of the Seagate Tapestor 8G IDE tape drive? I found a great deal on one and want to look out for any gotcha's. I checked the Hardware compatibility list and it is on there but I thought I would just check. The ide-tape.c driver says it is still alpha. How

Re: ATAPI Tape Drives

1998-05-14 Thread Stephen Carpenter
, but if you have a free IDE controller (I think it doesn't mind too much going on the same one as a CD ROM drive) then the IDE SHOULD work I was advised before I was even looking at tape drives You can use any scsi drive and most IDE drives -Steve Thanks, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: ATAPI Tape Drives

1998-05-14 Thread Bonard B. Timmons III
I've been using that exact model with no problems at all. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SCSI and Tape Drives

1998-04-22 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I have had one too many hardware failures which resulted in me Loosing everything lately, and as such would like to get a Tape drive I have been told that with linux most IDE Tape drives and All SCSI tape dirves will work I have had a secret desire (ok..not so secret) to start using SCSI on my

Re: SCSI and Tape Drives

1998-04-22 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I have had one too many hardware failures which resulted in me | Loosing everything lately, and as such would like to get a Tape drive | I have been told that with linux most IDE Tape drives and All SCSI | tape dirves will work | I have had a secret

Re: SCSI and Tape Drives

1998-04-22 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I got (for free) a SCSI controller... somone bought an internal SCSI Zip drive here at work but already had a SCSI card so they gave me the new one from the Zip drive... is this controller worth bothering with or should I spend the $$ to get a

Paralell Port tape drives under linux?

1998-04-05 Thread hospedales
Hi, I have a Parallel Port Ditto 3200 tape drive. Is there support for these sorts of things under Linux? If so where should I start looking to get it setup. Thanks, Timothy -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05-Apr-98 Time: 15:34:28 This message was sent by

Tape Drives (SCSI vrs. Parallel)

1997-10-27 Thread shawn . fumo
Hello again everyone, A little ways back I asked some things about Tape Drives, and I really appreciate all the responses. One last thing, though. I lot of people mentioned one with a SCSI card, but I think that I can only afford a parallel port one. Now, I know that it will be slower

Tape Drives?

1997-10-14 Thread shawn . fumo
Hello everyone, Please forgive me for a question that has probably been asked thousands of times. I've just been so busy lately that I haven't been able to do the research I usually would. Does anyone have any recommendations on a tape drive that would be compatible with Linux? My problem is

Re: Tape Drives?

1997-10-14 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Please forgive me for a question that has probably been asked thousands of times. I've just been so busy lately that I haven't been able to do the research I usually would. Does anyone have any recommendations on a tape drive

What's up with SCSI tape drives in Debian 1.2?

1997-01-11 Thread Robert Nicholson
Everytime I install the distribution I notice that despite configure the tape driver and seeing the system report st0. I still have to MAKEDEV nst0 _after making sure that omit stuff is all commented out_ in /etc/makedev.cfg. Also, if I interrupt gnutar after creating nst0 and just doing

Re: What's up with SCSI tape drives in Debian 1.2?

1997-01-11 Thread Rob Browning
Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nst0 _after making sure that omit stuff is all commented out_ in /etc/makedev.cfg. I think this, at least, is fixed in the latest install disks. Also, if I interrupt gnutar after creating nst0 and just doing something like tar tf /dev/nst0

Re: heads-up about SCSI tape drives

1996-08-22 Thread Bill Wohler
Susan G. Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suggestion: if you have a SCSI tape drive, you might wish to check that you can read from it, and/or you might wish to upgrade your kernel. Here's a data point: I didn't have any problems reading my Exabyte SCSI drive with 2.0.0 last night when

Re: heads-up about SCSI tape drives

1996-08-22 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Bill -- You said: One thing to think about is the blocksize. If you've run mt -f /dev/st0 setblk 0 (which is good for reading tapes written by SunOS and AIX I have found) you won't be able read tapes written with the default block size (whatever that is) and vice-versa. I

heads-up about SCSI tape drives

1996-08-18 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
I've been having a lot of problems with my SCSI tape drive in the past week or so (Unrecognizable archive, etc.). Another user also told me in private email that he'd also been having trouble with his SCSI tape drive. (I have an Exabyte 8505; I do not know what kind of SCSI tape drive the