Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: ... But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax forms are in PDF. Videos are in Flash, or worse Silverlight. Audio files are in I think we've discussed this before, but is it really correct to call PDF a

Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:24:14 -0500 Celejar cele...@gmail.com napísal: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: ... But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax forms are in PDF. Videos are in Flash, or worse Silverlight. Audio files are

Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:32:09 +0100 Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:24:14 -0500 Celejar cele...@gmail.com napísal: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: ... But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax

Re: update flash

2014-01-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-16 11:41 PM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Vendor_dependence So you are so freedom loving, why don't you abandon Flash-using-website altogether? Is it so hard?

Re: update flash

2014-01-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: I am using the flashplugin from Debian's nonfree repo. If there are any security updates for it from Adobe shouldn't those updates ultimately end up

Re: update flash

2014-01-17 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: My primary browser. Same problem whether using Adobe Flash or Google's version. In fact, if using Google's, those problem sites don't even recognize it, and say You need to

Re: update flash

2014-01-17 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, François Patte wrote: Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] I was unaware of this. I thought it was the plugin. I have since read the the Debian

Re: update flash

2014-01-17 Thread François Patte
Le 17/01/2014 18:28, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, François Patte wrote: Le 17/01/2014 05:11, Patrick Bartek a écrit : On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: [snip] I was unaware of this. I thought it was the plugin.

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 ian 14, 19:06:12, Patrick Bartek wrote: Query: Wouldn't apt-get update and upgrade do the same thing, if there were a new security update? And if you have the nonfree repo enabled, of course. apt-get only understands package (as in .deb) versions, so if a newer

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/2014 08:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jarth Berilcosm wrote: Good advice. On Jessie and later I have this: cat /etc/cron.daily/adobe-flashplugin-local #!/bin/sh update-flashplugin-nonfree --quiet --install If your version produces

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140116_101618, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 ian 14, 19:06:12, Patrick Bartek wrote: Query: Wouldn't apt-get update and upgrade do the same thing, if there were a new security update? And if you have the nonfree repo enabled, of course. apt-get only understands package (as in

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Ma Xiaojun wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW: Adobe says that 11.2.202 is the last and final Linux version of Flash. Although, they will continue backported security updates. Windows/OSX version is up to

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 ian 14, 19:06:12, Patrick Bartek wrote: Query: Wouldn't apt-get update and upgrade do the same thing, if there were a new security update? And if you have the nonfree repo enabled, of course. apt-get only understands package (as

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/2014 08:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jarth Berilcosm wrote: Good advice. On Jessie and later I have this: cat /etc/cron.daily/adobe-flashplugin-local #!/bin/sh

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: I am using the flashplugin from Debian's nonfree repo. If there are any security updates for it from Adobe shouldn't those updates ultimately end up in the repo just like all other nonfree stuff? Or would the security updates end up in some

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Curt
On 2014-01-16, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, the package could set up a cron job to do the update=20 automatically, but most people would hate that (me included) and it's=20 trivial to do it yourself. It could check for an updated version and, if one is available,

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 16 ian 14, 18:25:34, Curt wrote: On 2014-01-16, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, the package could set up a cron job to do the update=20 automatically, but most people would hate that (me included) and it's=20 trivial to do it yourself. It could check

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: I am using the flashplugin from Debian's nonfree repo. If there are any security updates for it from Adobe shouldn't those updates ultimately end up in the repo just like all other nonfree stuff? Or would the security updates end up in some

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Curt wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: Of course, the package could set up a cron job to do the update automatically, but most people would hate that (me included) and it's trivial to do it yourself. It could check for an updated version and, if one is available,

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 16 ian 14, 09:58:43, Patrick Bartek wrote: I am using the flashplugin from Debian's nonfree repo. If there are any security updates for it from Adobe shouldn't those updates ultimately end up in the repo just like all other nonfree

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: My primary browser. Same problem whether using Adobe Flash or Google's version. In fact, if using Google's, those problem sites don't even recognize it, and say You need to install Flash. Contact Google for support.

FIXED: Flash problem (was Re: update flash)

2014-01-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
In my quest to get Flash to work on a couple sites requiring version 11.8 or greater when 11.2 is the last Linux version, I was having no luck until today: Got an update/upgrade of Chrome, my primary browser, and its Pepper version of Flash is 12.0.0.41. The problem sites now work just fine.

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Ma Xiaojun wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: The OS is not the problem. All the other sites I frequent work just fine. It's just a couple that don't, but used to -- a month or so ago. A sane OS doesn't lock you at 11.2; a broken one does. Adobe Flash is a proprietary plugin from Adobe. Adobe

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Vendor_dependence So you are so freedom loving, why don't you abandon Flash-using-website altogether? Is it so hard? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Ma Xiaojun wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Vendor_dependence So you are so freedom loving, why don't you abandon Flash-using-website altogether? Is it so hard? You may be confusing me with comments made by others. I wasn't the one with the Flash

update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install update-flashplugin-nonfree --status Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.335 Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.335

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Stephen Allen
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Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/01/14 02:56, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install update-flashplugin-nonfree --status Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.335 Flash Player version available on upstream

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Jarth Berilcosm wrote: If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install update-flashplugin-nonfree --status ... http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/58396 documents what's up with an old exploit used in new scenario's. Good advice. On Jessie

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: Jarth Berilcosm wrote: If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install update-flashplugin-nonfree --status ... http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/58396 documents what's up with an old exploit

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW: Adobe says that 11.2.202 is the last and final Linux version of Flash. Although, they will continue backported security updates. Windows/OSX version is up to 12.something-or-other, IIRC. And I'm beginning to