On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 02:52:03PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
WV Who's to say what's valid and what isn't? When I originally read (and
WV agreed with) the SC, there was nobody to tell me that the way I read it
WV at the time wasn't considered valid. There was also nobody who pointed
WV me at
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters think.
Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Not likely. The last vote determined what 3/4 of the voters thought,
and people weren't willing to let that be the end of it.
Thomas
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:27:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters think.
Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Not likely. The last vote determined what 3/4 of the voters thought,
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That was because the voters were 20% of the developers, as you well
know. I'm also hoping that we've engaged enough of the developers that
we might get a representative vote this time.
I see. Is that what the Constitution says? If you don't like who
I see. Is that what the Constitution says? If you don't like who
won, then just keep proposing GRs, claiming that not enough people
voted last time? When you lose a vote, raise as big a stink as
possible and have more votes? You really think this is a good
procedure?
FWIW, they _are_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) schrieb:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That was because the voters were 20% of the developers, as you well
know. I'm also hoping that we've engaged enough of the developers that
we might get a representative vote this time.
I see. Is
Hello Manoj,
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 09:12:52PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
An easier way is to look at the votes when they come
out. Anyone who votes further discussion in the top 3 is not
interested in compromise or consensus, and has decided My way or
the Highway.
Sorry, but I
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 12:57:20AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That was because the voters were 20% of the developers, as you well
know. I'm also hoping that we've engaged enough of the developers that
we might get a representative vote this
On 2004-06-24 08:31:49 +0100 Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was because the voters were 20% of the developers, [...]
Consequently, supporters of the last GR have been accused of
gerrymandering because the vote ended up in spring break for some
people.
I would like to note in
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 09:12:52PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
An easier way is to look at the votes when they come
out. Anyone who votes further discussion in the top 3 is not
interested in compromise or consensus, and has decided My way or
the Highway.
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:46:53 -0400, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
An easier way is to look at the votes when they come out. Anyone
who votes further discussion in the top 3 is not interested in
compromise or consensus, and has decided My way or the Highway.
Or it could mean that he
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:19:04 +0100, Jochen Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hello Manoj,
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 09:12:52PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
An easier way is to look at the votes when they come out. Anyone
who votes further discussion in the top 3 is not interested in
compromise
Which is the same thing as My way or the highway. I like
this one option, see, and would rather do nothing than even consider
any of them thar oppossing view, no siree.
Are you telling us that if there were a GR consisting only of
undesirable options, you would rank them all above
what is my prize
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:59:10 -0400, Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Which is the same thing as My way or the highway. I like this one
option, see, and would rather do nothing than even consider any of
them thar oppossing view, no siree.
Are you telling us that if there were a GR
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:19:04 +0100, Jochen Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In my opinion the best strategy [*] with our current voting system
is to rank further discussion second, directly after your
favourite option. This slightly increases the chances of your
favourite option winning (the
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:27:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters think.
Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Not likely. The last vote determined what 3/4 of the voters thought,
and people weren't willing to let that be the
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:31:49 +1000, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:27:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters
think. Hopefully that will be the end of
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:50:58 +1000, Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 12:57:20AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That was because the voters were 20% of the developers, as you
well know. I'm also hoping that we've
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:02:28PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:27:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters think.
Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Not likely. The last vote determined what 3/4 of
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 03:55:40PM -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard
to say:
I have no interest in blaming people for the present state of affairs --
not AJ, not my co-sponsors of 003 -- only in getting things situated so
we can get back to our job of releasing the most
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nice spin. Kinda like Not allowing me to be a bigot is a
pretty biased idea -- it discriminates against bigots.
Disagree and you are compared to a bigot? So now it's your way or the
highway, to borrow a phrase?
Manoj, you are not calming this
Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see. Is that what the Constitution says? If you don't like who
won, then just keep proposing GRs, claiming that not enough people
voted last time? When you lose a vote, raise as big a stink as
possible and have more votes? You really think this
Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 11:27:07PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The current vote will determine what the majority of voters think.
Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Not likely. The last vote determined what 3/4 of the voters thought,
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On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 12:57:08AM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
I don't know what it is about your style of
comunication, but it reminds me more of debate club than rational
discussion in search of a common ground.
The implication here presumably being that illogical and invalid
arguments are
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 02:35:59PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 07:45:53PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
I find it to be more like fishing for consensus, by trying as many
possibilities as possible (hence buckshot). It really could have
been better refined (if
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 05:25:28AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
[You have quite neatly just demonstrated what argumentum ad hominem
actually is, though].
Do you have that phrase on a macro key yet?
Bored,
Hamish
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On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 03:15:22PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 05:42:04AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
That's just so totally American.
Now there's the ad hominem attack you keep referring to.
No, that would be You are American, therefore your argument is wrong.
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