Josip Rodin wrote:
> Anyway, I'd agree to stripping down the detailed procedure, but you still
Sorry for not replying to this thread before.
IMO it is definitely worthwhile to clarify the role of core teams within the
project and to establish some kind of framework to ensure that continuity
in
On Thu, 1 May 2008 01:27:50 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 05:27:56PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> What bothers me about all this is that we had a nicely detaled
>> document that spells out who has what rights, and it seems fairly
>> clear to me that a
Le Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:15:42PM +0200, Josip Rodin a écrit :
> >
> > * Infrastructure teams are encouraged to adapt their sizes to their
> > workloads,
> > to ensure that they don't block or slow down the work of other Debian
> > contributors.
Hi Josip and everybody,
I understand that ad
On Thu, 1 May 2008 03:28:48 +0200, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> And you think a little GR telling DPL's "go ahead -- you can do it!"
> [...]
>> However, feel free to go ahead with make-work; we do need to fill up
>> the vote page with more than just DPL votes, and I'll happily run
>> GR
> And you think a little GR telling DPL's "go ahead -- you can do it!"
[...]
> However, feel free to go ahead with make-work; we do need to
> fill up the vote page with more than just DPL votes, and I'll happily
> run GR's.
[...]
> What's next, a GR determining the favourite color of the Debian
On Thu, 1 May 2008 01:13:35 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I'd take that approach if there was even a hint of hope that an
> election could give us a leader without a goodness bias, but because
> this general trait is pretty much in the very core of the entire
> electorate, it's h
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 05:27:56PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> What bothers me about all this is that we had a nicely detaled document
> that spells out who has what rights, and it seems fairly clear to me that
> all powers in Debian stem from the powers laid down there; but that
> nicely d
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 05:21:41PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:10:38 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:42:59PM +0100, Clint Adams wrote:
> >> Why are we electing people like that?!
>
> > Because by default we elect nice people,
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:47:00 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> My take on this is that we do not have a problem: at least, none that
>> this GR is addressing. I am of the camp that believe that the only
>> power people have in any cap
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:10:38 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:42:59PM +0100, Clint Adams wrote:
>> Why are we electing people like that?!
> Because by default we elect nice people, who avoid stepping on
> people's toes. Which is generally a good thing, bu
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[DPLs]
> Because by default we elect nice people, who avoid stepping on people's
> toes.
What, like Overfiend?
Marc
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:42:59PM +0100, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:40:31PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > I think that it's going to make a difference, because it will eliminate
> > the notion that there are grey areas, which has historically obstructed
> > progress - no leade
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:40:31PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> I think that it's going to make a difference, because it will eliminate
> the notion that there are grey areas, which has historically obstructed
> progress - no leader wanted to order people to do things differently when
> it was not c
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My take on this is that we do not have a problem: at least, none
> that this GR is addressing. I am of the camp that believe that the
> only power people have in any capacity in Debian flows from the
> constitution; which means either the
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 02:14:39PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > You state the problem yourself - the *current* DPL(s) are doing
> > *something*, but we don't actually know much about it, or if any of it
> > will happen again, or if the next different DPL and his inaction will
> > mark the sta
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:05 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:02:24AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I am of the camp that believe that the only power people have in any
>> capacity in Debian flows from the constitution; which means either
>> the powers
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:24:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > Debian developers acknowledge the following:
> >
> > * The Debian Project infrastructure is run by people who volunteer their
> > time and knowledge in a good-faith effort to help the Debian Project.
> > * The practice of existi
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:02:24AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am of the camp that believe that the only power people have in any
> capacity in Debian flows from the constitution; which means either the
> powers listed for developers, or as delegates of the DPL. Recent
> delegation acti
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:55:29PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> The main goal of my proposal is to allow people to choose between (A)
> and (B) explicitely.
OK, I was actually hoping for that myself, I think I actually voiced that at
one point last year :)
> > Hmm. In the last few weeks, we
Hi,
On 30/04/08 at 00:53 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Maybe my timing was bad, but no seconds, no objections, and one reply
> - that sounds like we have a showstopper problem with motivating
> people to do *anything* about this, and I'm thinking that we need to
> understand that before we think abo
On 30/04/08 at 00:53 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 08:24:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > Debian developers acknowledge the following:
> > >
> > > * The Debian Project infrastructure is run by people who volunteer their
> > > time and knowledge in a good-faith effort
Hi,
On Saturday 19 April 2008 20:24, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I'm still not convinced that we need all that bureaucracy. Here is a
> draft amemdment.
> -
> Draft amendment - Project infrastructure team procedures
>
> > Debian developers acknowledge the following:
> >
> > * The Debian Project i
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