- "Steve Langasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This says that the *license* must comply with the DFSG. It specifically
> does *not* say that the *firmware* complies with the DFSG, allowing us to
> ship firmware in main for which source code was unavailable if it otherwise
> complied with the
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> […] we will […] deliver firmware in udebs as long as it is
> necessary for installation (like all udebs), and firmware included
> in the kernel itself as part of Debian Etch, as long as we are
> legally allowed to do so, and the firmware is dist
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 04:28:27PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The second time, we said the firmware must comply with the
> DFSG. That meant, in practice, that the formware was considered to be
> in compliance with the GPL, and thus the preferred form of
> modification -- and no one
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> My understanding is that that's exactly what they did, and that's what
>> my post was trying to say. That would make FD mean N-N-R-N-N, yes?
> No. That would mean that FD *decided* it. That is not
Le Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:12:10AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Hello Neil, Manoj, and everybody.
>
> Thanks Neil for preparing the vote page. I think that there is no need for
> extra explanation. There is a small mistake however: I am the proposer of the
> GR. Can you correct the page ?
Ah
Hello Neil, Manoj, and everybody.
Thanks Neil for preparing the vote page. I think that there is no need for
extra explanation. There is a small mistake however: I am the proposer of the
GR. Can you correct the page ?
Have a nice day,
--
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
--
To UNSUBSCR
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:13:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
>> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:21:47PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> The constitution does not give release teams the power
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:13:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:21:47PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> The constitution does not give release teams the powers to
> >> override the foundation documents, so
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 07:43:05PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>>
>> I think the primary question that started this line of proposals
>> was how to resolve the presence of allegedly sourcele
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 à 10:25 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > Personal attacks (to call my statements “lies” is to assert that
> > I'm knowingly stating falsehood) are not welcome.
>
> This is not a personal attack. You are spreading lies
Tha
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:21:47PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> The constitution does not give release teams the powers to
>> override the foundation documents, so the release team can not ignore
>> SC violations.
>
>> I can make
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 23/11/08 at 11:29 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Pages of the two issues currently under discussion are now
>> available (I'll note that none of the proposers ever turned in any wml
>> for their proposals, so this was done by
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 07:43:05PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 06:29:26PM +, gregor herrmann wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>
> >>> Since some people have
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:29:06AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 17 2008, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
>> > This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
>> >> Le lundi 17 novembre 2008 à 14:05 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
>> >> > Thi
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The release team is free to interpret the SC and decide there is
>> no violation there (as long as they have a rationale, defensible
>> position, etc). That would not violate the constitution.
>
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:21:47PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The constitution does not give release teams the powers to
> override the foundation documents, so the release team can not ignore
> SC violations.
> I can make a formal interpretation of the constitution, if yo
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The release team is free to interpret the SC and decide there is
> no violation there (as long as they have a rationale, defensible
> position, etc). That would not violate the constitution.
My understanding is that that's exactly what they
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:29:06AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17 2008, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
> >> Le lundi 17 novembre 2008 à 14:05 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
> >> > This is not part of my GR as proposed and seconded.
>
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Russ Allbery wrote:
> gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> In order to make it easier for me and maybe others I'm trying to compact
>> them into a single table below (the FD column is from Russ' followup
>> mail to -vote).
>>
>> v Consequence / Proposal >
On 23/11/08 at 11:29 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Pages of the two issues currently under discussion are now
> available (I'll note that none of the proposers ever turned in any wml
> for their proposals, so this was done by the Secretary and asst
> secretary). These pages,
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hi Manoj,
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:29:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_003>
>>For vote 003, if the proposers want to set up a page of
>> rationale, to help guide voters through th
gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In order to make it easier for me and maybe others I'm trying to compact
> them into a single table below (the FD column is from Russ' followup
> mail to -vote).
>
> v Consequence / Proposal > | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | FD
> --
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 06:29:26PM +, gregor herrmann wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>>> Since some people have had trouble reading the proposals, I am
>>> including a short impact of the p
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 06:29:26PM +, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>
> > Since some people have had trouble reading the proposals, I am
> > including a short impact of the proposal list below the proposal.
>
> Thanks fo
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> Since some people have had trouble reading the proposals, I am
> including a short impact of the proposal list below the proposal.
Thanks for listing the consequences of the different choices.
In order to make it eas
Hi Manoj,
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:29:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>Hi,
>
>http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_003
>
>For vote 003, if the proposers want to set up a page of
> rationale, to help guide voters through their proposals, please send
> me wml/html in the next
Hi,
Pages of the two issues currently under discussion are now
available (I'll note that none of the proposers ever turned in any wml
for their proposals, so this was done by the Secretary and asst
secretary). These pages, because of an undiagnosed bug, do not turn up
on the navigation
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> This is not a personal attack. You are spreading lies implying no one is
> working on these bugs while YOU are the one discouraging people to work
> on them. Again, please stop your lies, and if you really want to help,
> please stop all of your contr
On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 22 novembre 2008 à 19:49 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>> Could you take this tone away from -vote, please?
>
> Manoj, please don’t take this personally,
Then do stop attacking the man, as this email does right now,
rec
Le samedi 22 novembre 2008 à 19:49 -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
> Could you take this tone away from -vote, please?
Manoj, please don’t take this personally, but I don’t think you are
qualified to tell what is an appropriate tone for a discussion.
--
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Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 à 10:25 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008 à 00:09 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
> > > You seem to have missed what I said: In order to have *anyone* fix
> > > them, they need to be acknowledged a
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