Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2017: Call for nominations

2017-03-11 Thread Chris Lamb
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Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2017: Call for nominations

2017-03-11 Thread Chris Lamb
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Re: Q to Chris: time commitment

2017-03-17 Thread Chris Lamb
ceiving the time and attention it deserves. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: improving our onboarding process

2017-03-17 Thread Chris Lamb
documentation. Removing existing documentation is, as you might have experienced yourself, incredibly difficult both from a technical and and political point of view. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: create our own outreach initiative

2017-03-17 Thread Chris Lamb
ich Conservancy working to move away from… yet the general perception IME is that it's "GNOME Outreachy", showing how being the title/original sponsor is extremely powerful and, perhaps, worth a slight overlap of efforts. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: create our own outreach initiative

2017-03-19 Thread Chris Lamb
e student as an ongoing relationship, rather than a shorter-term or transactional affair limited only to the scope of the proposal. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question for Chris: organising more meetings?

2017-03-19 Thread Chris Lamb
a nod and a thanks as we leave on the final day. Conversely, nobody is organising a meetup simply for the pat on the back at the end, but I think we could strike a better balance here. Lastly, I would organise some meetups myself. Hey, that's one way of ensuring they happen, right? :) R

Re: Question for DPL candidates: delegation

2017-03-22 Thread Chris Lamb
ld likely be redirected to the project as a whole to reach some form of consensus first. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Board of directors?

2017-03-24 Thread Chris Lamb
wondering if you could elaborate on this so we could both counter (or agree!) with your issues, rather than it being a little too abstract. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to candidates: reporting frequency

2017-03-24 Thread Chris Lamb
onthly wouldn't be a good cadence to start off with; predictable, easy to schedule/plan, and easy to spot when one hasn't done it! Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both candidates: universality

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
't necessarily need it, such as marketing, image, etc. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: spending and fundraising

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
scuss — money, even when the amounts involved are essentially trivial and it could clearly save a lot of their time. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: measuring progress on your goals

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
uable thoughts on such a programme.) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both: "Debian outreachy" (was: Q to Chris: create our own outreach initiative)

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
t that diversity was a good thing but when prompted with a question of "OK, so what shall we do?" there was little advice beyond being welcoming, etc. being exchanged. Without addressing this, we could end up simply paying lip service to the concept to the detriment of all. Regar

Re: Q to both: facilitating meetups (was: Question for Chris: organising more meetings?)

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
bove the typical BSP. Even promoting fortnightly social meetups that are more — how can I put it? — "IPA" than "ITP" would be really beneficial to the project. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both: "Debian outreachy"

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
have our heads in a laptop. Apologies that this was unclear in my original message. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both: facilitating meetups (was: Question for Chris: organising more meetings?)

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
fixed deadline whilst a large meetup would require making a (hopefully limited) number of executive or board-level decisions in terms of budgets/deadlines to appease 3rd parties that require them. … but I'm still not 100% sure I'm getting what you are asking, alas. Regards, --

Re: Q to Chris: measuring progress on your goals

2017-03-26 Thread Chris Lamb
difficult mindset to truly live by given how close tied it can be to one's ego and insecurities. :( Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both candidates: preventing burnout by other contributors

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
be able to work with you further on this. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Mehdi: safe and fun

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
r free software culture to evolve. Perhaps it will take longer in Debian given our relative vintage but it, doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both candidates: preventing burnout by other contributors

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
arties in the same room specifically to solve a social problem. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to the candidates: GPLv2 system library exception

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
nce or opinion. (Indeed, I would worry that expressing my "personal" opinion on this particular issue in the context of -vote would be misleading at best and possibly even counterproductive. I hope this doesn't come across as evasive.) Regards, -- ,''`. : :&#x

Re: Q to the candidates: GPLv2 system library exception

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
-made and b) the amounts are sensible. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Mehdi: safe and fun

2017-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
nities — show that toxic behaviour can be managed to some degree. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both candidates: preventing burnout by other contributors

2017-03-30 Thread Chris Lamb
conflicts that have inflamed or, say, when a developer is behaving poorly in a team in general and certainly not when there is a direct victim-oppressor situation. Apologies this wasn't clearer in my previous mail; I was trying to keep the two cases distinct. Regards, -- ,

Re: Questions for DPL candidates: Support channels

2017-03-30 Thread Chris Lamb
not, providing support also has a reputation for not being very rewarding, so incentivising developers to spend will regrettably remain an uphill battle. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Questions for DPL candidates: Support channels

2017-03-30 Thread Chris Lamb
f hardware signoff or hardware compatibility reporting. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-03-31 Thread Chris Lamb
quiring special attention or "fuss" when one declines) would seem to to make a big difference. What do you think? Are there specific things you would be looking for? Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Lamb
-speaking (breathalysers?!) and would quickly start to look like the act of a killjoy. Besides, being a nuisance to others is not and should not be tolerated anyway, regardless of blood alcohol content - we need no special rules in this area AFAICT. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Lamb
appended to accomodate non-drinkers. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both: release date

2017-04-05 Thread Chris Lamb
s of the release itself, I would naturally check in with the release team and pass on whatever details they wished to publicise. And of course, the usual exhortations to "please test…" :) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to both: release date

2017-04-05 Thread Chris Lamb
r story. :) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: having public irc logs?

2017-04-07 Thread Chris Lamb
ind when you addressed your question? Perhaps ensuring those become transparent in another way would assuage your concerns. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: having public irc logs?

2017-04-09 Thread Chris Lamb
; maybe #-devel-changes (or whatever is called). It would seem to me that there are many other ways of being appraised of the current status of these services that do not require the channels to be publically logged. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to Chris: measuring progress on your goals

2017-04-09 Thread Chris Lamb
xperience, insisting that experiments or demos be "production-ready" from their initial release dampens enthusiasm far more than intended... Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2018: Call for nominations

2018-03-09 Thread Chris Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > [..] I hereby nominate myself for the 2018 Debian Project Leader election. Regards, - -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `- -

Re: Q: what could you do better this year?

2018-03-17 Thread Chris Lamb
ussion and to avoid patronising you. Naturally, if you have other questions or would like clarification, please follow-up.) [0] https://www.debian.org/vote/2018/platforms/lamby Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: DPL: friction in Debian?

2018-03-29 Thread Chris Lamb
g it more transparent and descriptive in places would — even without changing any underlying process at all, which I do note is also being discussed — would vastly improve the sentiment about that. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Chesterton's_fence Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-03-30 Thread Chris Lamb
wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-03-30 Thread Chris Lamb
from such a community. If you will permit me to exaggerate for a moment, if anybody is leaving the Project it is due to sustained exposure to such low-level toxicity. :( Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Conflict resolution (was: Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?)

2018-04-01 Thread Chris Lamb
firmed by bystanders or even (ironically enough, by private mail) by the people directly involved. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
lready hear the (perhaps justified…) pushback and thus decided not to get closer involved. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
e; I think I already implied that a DPL passive- aggressively threatening the FTP team with a General Resolution masquerading as a schedule would not lead to the situation improving any quicker. :) Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
e > pushback Of course, but not if one would agree with that pushback. :) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
e > pushback Of course, but not if one would agree with that pushback. :) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear Bdale, > I've been startled sometimes at how other read what I wrote instead of > what I meant, and how often a very small tweak in wording was all it > took to clear up the distinction... Thank you for sharing your wisdom :) Regards, -- ,''`.

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-05 Thread Chris Lamb
start posting to the mailing lists under a pseudonym…!) Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-06 Thread Chris Lamb
y way, referring to an additional tendency for folks to push back on things they might otherwise have agreed upon but do not want to (or do not want to be seen to!) be going along with a "boss", however informal that structure is :) Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' :

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

2019-03-12 Thread Chris Lamb
electing to run for a third consecutive term; most of what I have read so far has been inaccurate at best and much of it deeply problematic. Thank you in advance. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org 🍥 chris-lamb.co.uk `-

Re: Q to all candidates: about advancing Debian (as organisation) while not being DPL

2019-04-03 Thread Chris Lamb
on of being able to ask the Project Leader for their connections, experience or plain-old sanity checking before doing something especially if that action might affect the reputation or image of the Project. So, reading this back I am not entirely sure what I'm asking here but I would be interes

Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Chris Lamb
nded process of persuading others. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org 🍥 chris-lamb.co.uk `-