??
We'd like to know too. We keep getting people here who ask for their
prize, but they never reply when we ask them for details.
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x27;d like to know too. We keep getting people here who ask for their
prize, but they never reply when we ask them for details.
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ps.
Hmm. Were you tapping into my webcam when the position statement
about removing KDE was finalized? I have no idea how else you could
know these details. Unless James has been talking.
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he author of
> the sc has stated the sc was meant to cover everything on the
> CD's. There is no expansion going on.
I think a shift from "software" to "works" is an expansion. In any
case, we sometimes distribute CDs and brochures at conventions, and
those are clearly not software.
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ps.
Hmm. Were you tapping into my webcam when the position statement
about removing KDE was finalized? I have no idea how else you could
know these details. Unless James has been talking.
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he author of
> the sc has stated the sc was meant to cover everything on the
> CD's. There is no expansion going on.
I think a shift from "software" to "works" is an expansion. In any
case, we sometimes distribute CDs and brochures at conventions, and
those are cle
> property.
How?
Assume a ballot with these options:
B - Branden's amendment (3:1)
E - Editorial-only amendment (3:1)
N - Don't amend
D - Default option
Can you show a real preference that is best achieved by voting
insincerely?
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> property.
How?
Assume a ballot with these options:
B - Branden's amendment (3:1)
E - Editorial-only amendment (3:1)
N - Don't amend
D - Default option
Can you show a real preference that is best achieved by voting
insincerely?
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it is little-known.
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claiming extra pedant points today.
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ey support and approve of. That way we don't bother people with
options nobody wants.
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ey support and approve of. That way we don't bother people with
options nobody wants.
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quot;as" in
> there. You could probably lose the "as freely" and just have it say
> "we will license them in a manner..." and it would make sense.
Hmm. Branden already amended his proposal to drop the "as" (and I
followed suit). You'll have to propose dropping the "freely"
separately :)
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vents this use.)
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quot;as" in
> there. You could probably lose the "as freely" and just have it say
> "we will license them in a manner..." and it would make sense.
Hmm. Branden already amended his proposal to drop the "as" (and I
followed suit). You'll have to propose drop
vents this use.)
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logical chunks than wdiff chose.
I have also added stylesheet directives to color the insertions and
deletions differently.
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logical chunks than wdiff chose.
I have also added stylesheet directives to color the insertions and
deletions differently.
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th the wording, what
amendment could I have proposed? I prefer the wording of C to that
of A because it's more accurate.
> Those who are horrified by all three of the (operational) ballot options
> are free to rank "further discussion" as their first choice.
No, I'll vote B A F C. Proposal A's list is redundant but unambiguous.
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th the wording, what
amendment could I have proposed? I prefer the wording of C to that
of A because it's more accurate.
> Those who are horrified by all three of the (operational) ballot options
> are free to rank "further discussion" as their first choice.
No, I'll vo
roposal, because the
work entitled "Debian Social Contract" includes the DFSG.
(Its title seems to vary a bit; doc-debian calls it "Debian GNU/Linux
Social Contract". Was that the original title?)
This inclusion isn't accidental; point 1 specifically says "As there
are many definitions of free software, we include the guidelines we
use to determine if software is "free" below."
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roposal, because the
work entitled "Debian Social Contract" includes the DFSG.
(Its title seems to vary a bit; doc-debian calls it "Debian GNU/Linux
Social Contract". Was that the original title?)
This inclusion isn't accidental; point 1 specifically says "As there
are
"free" below.
Note the use of "include". The Social Contract includes the DFSG.
So in a way I agree with this amendment, but for completely different
reasons.
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"free" below.
Note the use of "include". The Social Contract includes the DFSG.
So in a way I agree with this amendment, but for completely different
reasons.
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ying the
> language in the constitution about _changing_ non technical
> documents.
> ==
Seconded.
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On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:27:24PM -0400, Christine Stockdale wrote:
> So, where's the prize?
Does anyone know what's going on? This is the third on this list.
Is someone running a scam with our name on it? Is it fallout from
a new worm?
Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:27:24PM -0400, Christine Stockdale wrote:
> So, where's the prize?
Does anyone know what's going on? This is the third on this list.
Is someone running a scam with our name on it? Is it fallout from
a new worm?
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> In the Robinson amendment's changes to (5), replace "modify"
> with "supersede."
I propose to use a word that won't be misspelled all over the place :)
Even in this thread I've seen three counts of "supercede". I'd hate to
add that
> In the Robinson amendment's changes to (5), replace "modify"
> with "supersede."
I propose to use a word that won't be misspelled all over the place :)
Even in this thread I've seen three counts of "supercede". I'd hate to
add that
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:49:06PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Again, no need to be DPL to request news from delegates.
You might, however, need to be DPL to get an answer.
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On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:49:06PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Again, no need to be DPL to request news from delegates.
You might, however, need to be DPL to get an answer.
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gh, that the word originally referred to Frankish
citizenship, and the rights and benefits thereof.
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gh, that the word originally referred to Frankish
citizenship, and the rights and benefits thereof.
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m Latin "Francus", meaning a
Frank; and from German "Franko", "the name of a Germanic people
on the Rhine, who afterward founded the French monarchy".
In other words, the Fiend was telling us to be more French.
It's a strange world.
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to troll, v.: to explore, in an electronic forum, the subtle distinction
between being an idiot and pretending to be an idiot.
m Latin "Francus", meaning a
Frank; and from German "Franko", "the name of a Germanic people
on the Rhine, who afterward founded the French monarchy".
In other words, the Fiend was telling us to be more French.
It's a strange world.
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to troll, v.:
cannot be understood and applied by programmers.
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cannot be understood and applied by programmers.
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o allow a "this ballot sucks" option on
any ballot. It's a safety net for procedural mistakes, and it copes
with cases where a ballot is overtaken by current events.
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o allow a "this ballot sucks" option on
any ballot. It's a safety net for procedural mistakes, and it copes
with cases where a ballot is overtaken by current events.
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> I guess our ftpmasters will love you.
I don't expect our ftpmasters to act on an rm -rf resolution if they
see there's another vote on the way. There's always plenty of more
urgent stuff to do.
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> I guess our ftpmasters will love you.
I don't expect our ftpmasters to act on an rm -rf resolution if they
see there's another vote on the way. There's always plenty of more
urgent stuff to do.
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ose are likely to win with a larger
margin.
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ose are likely to win with a larger
margin.
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tion" and
"superminority" roles, so that there would be an explicit "Maintain
status quo" option that does not invite further discussion. Voters
can then explicitly rank it against the supermajority options,
and supermajority options are only scaled when they are compared
to that special option.
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tion" and
"superminority" roles, so that there would be an explicit "Maintain
status quo" option that does not invite further discussion. Voters
can then explicitly rank it against the supermajority options,
and supermajority options are only scaled when they are compared
to that special option.
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h more like a definite "No,
don't remove non-free" vote to me. I don't see how you infer
supermajority support for A, from a supermajority support for "A or B".
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so negatively about.
In summary, I think that leaving the office vacant is in fact a
reasonable default option, and it is the safest option if None Of The
Above is part of a circular tie.
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h more like a definite "No,
don't remove non-free" vote to me. I don't see how you infer
supermajority support for A, from a supermajority support for "A or B".
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so negatively about.
In summary, I think that leaving the office vacant is in fact a
reasonable default option, and it is the safest option if None Of The
Above is part of a circular tie.
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n preferences I have
> to wonder how they manage to get along in life... :-)
Debian developers aren't used to having to rank preferences. Since it's
all free software, they can just install everything they like.
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above" to any of the candidates, I think it would be better to leave
the office vacant for nine more weeks than to go to great lengths to
select a "winner" who might do more harm than good. Historically, we
have had great success with vacant Project Leaders anyway :)
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n preferences I have
> to wonder how they manage to get along in life... :-)
Debian developers aren't used to having to rank preferences. Since it's
all free software, they can just install everything they like.
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above" to any of the candidates, I think it would be better to leave
the office vacant for nine more weeks than to go to great lengths to
select a "winner" who might do more harm than good. Historically, we
have had great success with vacant Project Leaders anyway :)
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oj would ever do such a vile thing.]
Indeed. We're geeks, and the election is a new toy that we're taking
apart to see how it works :-)
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t Manoj would ever do such a vile thing.]
Indeed. We're geeks, and the election is a new toy that we're taking
apart to see how it works :-)
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know whose votes they are or
what the votes contain, so this is a suboptimal way of affecting the
election results :) In addition, the voters involved can raise
a stink _before_ the votes are counted, because they can refuse to
send in their private keys until the matter is investigated.
know whose votes they are or
what the votes contain, so this is a suboptimal way of affecting the
election results :) In addition, the voters involved can raise
a stink _before_ the votes are counted, because they can refuse to
send in their private keys until the matter is investigated.
nstitution, the Project Leader vote (5.2.7)
has the same quorum as a General Resolution (4.2), which is defined
as 3Q (4.2.4). And Q is defined (4.2.7) as half the square root of
the number of current developers. The square root of 1043 is around 32,
which makes Q around 16 and the quorum about 48.
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nstitution, the Project Leader vote (5.2.7)
has the same quorum as a General Resolution (4.2), which is defined
as 3Q (4.2.4). And Q is defined (4.2.7) as half the square root of
the number of current developers. The square root of 1043 is around 32,
which makes Q around 16 and the quorum abou
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 01:27:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Any other technical reasons?
You seem to have eliminated all the reasons for having a secret vote
in the first place. Shall we not bother, then? Open votes are
certainly easier to run.
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 01:27:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Any other technical reasons?
You seem to have eliminated all the reasons for having a secret vote
in the first place. Shall we not bother, then? Open votes are
certainly easier to run.
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e or
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s than
two days -- either finding the developer name for one vote, or finding
one developer's vote from among all the votes.
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s than
two days -- either finding the developer name for one vote, or finding
one developer's vote from among all the votes.
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On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:51:06PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:04:02AM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:19:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:43:52PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > >
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:51:06PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:04:02AM +0100, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:19:18PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:43:52PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >
d my
ballot from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it was accepted. The NOTE must have
been mistaken.
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x27;s a position of not caring about the proposals,
rather than wanting to see one voted on and implemented.
Why are you evading Anthony's question? It looked pretty clear to me,
he asked how you would answer if you had the particular intention he
described. Not how you would answer in a host of other cases.
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d my
ballot from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it was accepted. The NOTE must have
been mistaken.
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x27;s a position of not caring about the proposals,
rather than wanting to see one voted on and implemented.
Why are you evading Anthony's question? It looked pretty clear to me,
he asked how you would answer if you had the particular intention he
described. Not how you would answer in a host of other cases.
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ch a rule about who could vote,
and he was nice enough to do that without flaming me back.
At this point we agree that his wording could have been better,
and I'll take the incident as a sign that I should be less
trigger happy. My new rule: ask first, you can always shoot
them later.
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evil conspiracy to keep you young ones out of
the loop. I can just see Jason cackling with glee while implementing
it this way. I mean, it couldn't possibly be a simple error in a system
that is only exercised once a year.
Get a life.
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d such a rule about who could vote,
and he was nice enough to do that without flaming me back.
At this point we agree that his wording could have been better,
and I'll take the incident as a sign that I should be less
trigger happy. My new rule: ask first, you can always shoot
them later.
Ri
evil conspiracy to keep you young ones out of
the loop. I can just see Jason cackling with glee while implementing
it this way. I mean, it couldn't possibly be a simple error in a system
that is only exercised once a year.
Get a life.
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e proposals be attached to the ballot, for the benefit
of people who have difficulty accessing HTTP while reading mail.
For example the machine with my PGP key is not connected to the net
except by floppy :)
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e proposals be attached to the ballot, for the benefit
of people who have difficulty accessing HTTP while reading mail.
For example the machine with my PGP key is not connected to the net
except by floppy :)
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till
> you use 8 for your last choice. You may leave choices you consider
8? There are 5 choices :)
Who are the hidden 3 candidates?
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may not
^^^ should be "involved".
> agree with our discision.
^ should be "decision".
You may want to mention here whether the mirror coordinator will want to
do this work :-)
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