o be formally a part of Debian.
Are we really still talking about Russia? What about all the other
atrocities in the world, first and foremost those being done by the
Western nations, where most of Debian's assets are being held in
custody of some form or another?
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I feel like this is something the DPL should just decide together
with the FTP dudes. No GR required, that's just bait.
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us that men are useless at tech,
and their contributions should regularly be dismissed based on their
biology. Bonus points for finding ways to do so that are completely
out of context and uncalled for, and as with anything else: the more
offensive, the better.
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Regarding the following, written by "Scott Kitterman" on 2020-06-01 at 20:45
Uhr -0400:
It's almost like this discussion about a GR was a premature waste of
everyone's time.
You should get this framed and sent to a couple of developers. ;)
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Quoting "Joerg Jaspert", who wrote on 2019-03-26 at 20:56 Uhr +0100:
I am holding positions of power in Debian
What does this mean in the context of you running for DPL? Will you
hold on to these roles, or give them up?
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:
7;m not so confident about bridges though; they are far from
user-friendly. Native rooms give a better experience.
This can be fixed.
Also, we should have this discussion on #debian-matrix, or another
mailing list. Sorry for bringing my evangelism to -vote.
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7;t I?
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"it is the mark of an educated mind
to b
will,
which is why the bridging concept is just beautiful.
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"a cigarette is
withstand some
pushback, or if justified, then this pushback ought to be included
in the vision they share?
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licly visible on official
project resources?
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when everything is coming your way, you're in
rience "embracing failure" is a very difficult mindset to truly live
> by given how close tied it can be to one's ego and insecurities. :(
In what ways do you think leadership could make a difference here?
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im/app and then
join the room #_oftc_#debian-release:matrix.org and you'll be able
to interact through Matrix, which keeps history for you.
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guess
one way to frame it would be to consider the difference between
decision-making processes in crafting a Debian release vs. making
a meetup happen.
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`-
along turning
a blind eye to the fact that you'll never get there.
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"the thought
know?
What is your perception of the DebConf code of conduct and incidence
response?
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ut projects still on-going?
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dies ist eine manuell generierte email. sie
expedite
finding creative solutions to these as well.
Are you aware of any such blockers in the past?
Where do you think does the existing culture come from? How do you
plan to "change culture"?
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eing a bit of the rust on the
cogwheels making organisation harder?
Contrariwise, what do you think is already working really well?
What could be done from the side of the project to
improve/facilitate the organisation of meetups?
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lready doing
a good job?
- What are the obstacles that keep us in other areas?
- What do you think are the low-hanging fruits regarding outreach?
- What are some concrete steps you'd like to see happen ASAP?
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ld allow you to measure your success in making "a meaningful and
lasting impact" during your tenure?
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e are?
- Can you identify ways in which we may be a bit blinded by our
own claims?
- How important is the strive towards "universality", and why?
- In what ways do you think does it obstruct us?
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: :&#x
eing declassified.
> 3. Participants are reminded to use -private only when necessary.
>
> ========
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usly… are we going to debate this now? Let's just vote and be
done with it. Please. With a cherry.
Btw, we've had DebConf Chairs too and nobody complained.
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;declassification.
>
> 3. In keeping with paragraph 3 of the Debian Social Contract, Debian
>Developers are strongly encouraged to use the debian-private mailing
>list only for discussions that should not be disclosed.
>
> === END GR TEXT ===
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also sprach Kurt Roeckx [2016-07-08 16:09 +0200]:
> Would it make sense to either have this as separate option,
> not modifying the Chainman or as seperate GR?
I've been convinced last night that my amendment is not needed, so
let's just leave it.
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t our foundations, such a change must be announced and can
only be put into effect following a four week period during which no
opposing GR has been launched.
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>
> === END GR TEXT ===
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"one
ed roles, but
those decisions which the DPL wouldn't defer to someone who knows
better already? For if there weren't many of those, another
consideration would be just to get rid of the DPL position and
spread powers wider and closer to where the work is being done.
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any ambiguity but it is
> undesirable.
>
>Fix this with the following semantically neutral amendment:
>
> - Renumber the first section A.1 to A.0.
>
>
>- GENERAL RESOLUTION ENDS -
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.g. George W. Bush or Sarah
> Palin.
It's not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-by-one_error
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also sprach Andreas Barth [2015-08-26 22:12 +0200]:
> we (as the Technical Committee) have encountered two bugs in the
> constitution which we like to fix. For this reason, I propose the
> following General Resolution to change the constitution.
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st not be any "sell-out" and we must not acquire more money than
we can reasonably use towards the improvement of Debian.
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also sprach Kurt Roeckx [2015-04-01 01:03 +0200]:
> Voting period starts Wed Apr 1 00:00:00 UTC 2015
> Votes must be received by Tue Apr 14 23:59:59 UTC 2015
Or just go with a standard:
2015-04-01 00:00:00 UTC
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ing what the desired ratio between income and
> reserves should be though.
You're also presuming a steady income stream and no unforeseen
expenses, which we currently don't have, at least not in any
reliable/planned way.
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would
impeded on the ability of the involved teams to plan and evolve.
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"we american
ntend to spend more than surplus, which at the moment you
could. What about next year's DPL, or the year after that?
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their time with them simply pinging TOs for
> data, and not getting replies.
Let's assume they'd be wasting time pinging TOs for data and not
getting replies. What would you do in that case?
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also sprach Mehdi Dogguy [2015-03-17 11:08 +0100]:
> Why not proceeding step by step instead of trying to build up big plans
> even before we start?
We've started.
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and all other ways and aspects of recruiting
need active management. At the moment, a few people are working hard
to keep up, but to build a team, we'd need to give it a perspective,
don't you think?
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way around… or how do you want to
sustainably fund 2 Outreachy slots per year (beyond each DPL term)?
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rst time. This has been tried for
decades.
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sed -e '/^[when][coders]/!d' \
-e '/^...
is that we already
have a very strong brand. It won't happen without careful design and
a lot of work on our behalf, but it should definitely be possible to
create this cash flow, especially if it were a project decision and
delegated to a few.
¹) https://www.debian.org/partne
especially
since I understand none of you will be working on this full-time (…
which would be a whole different issue…)?
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ed outside our focus.¹
Can you please elaborate on some of the "goals beyond the OS" you
think we should pursue and sketch how you think you could get the
project members to follow along?
¹) https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/08/threads.html#00093
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Neil,
in your platform, you advocate PPAs and modernising our build and
infrastructure.
What's the DPL's role in this? Or, put differently, couldn't you
just start working on this without the DPL hat? Why not? What's the
difference here?
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e this sort of trust. Instead,
when it comes to a trusted organisation that manages finances, I'd
argue that uncertainty should immediately trigger an audit.
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ship (for example) confirmed earlier.
How are you going to finance this sustainably?
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"i mu
Question(s) to all candidates:
What is your perception of fundraising in and around Debian?
If anything, what changes would you like to help implement?
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me of the
gruntwork related to accounting and treasury to professional
agencies? The goal here would be to free up our volunteers to
develop Debian and actually force us into more discipline.
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Dear candidates,
What is your perception of DebConf and its organisation?
If any, what changes would you like to implement?
Thank you,
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DSA: if you were to remove Manoj due to this petition, remove me
right along. I certainly wouldn't want to be part of this project
anymore.
To the loud people responsible for all this crap: try to fix a bug
for every time you write a mail to our lists. Actually, just fix the
bug, please.
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concerns and potentially reshapes the whole project, and thus the
whole project should be able to take part.
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`. `'`
also sprach Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.27.2028 +0100]:
> [ ] Choice 1: Decision on membership reform stands until GR decided
> [ ] Choice 2: Decision on membership reform delayed until GR decided
I don't understand the difference between those two.
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specifying your competencies, or an official description of the DAM
role.
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`-
ot need
a GR to suspend them, because they aren't anything but suggestions
and could not be enacted without the developer collective agreeing.
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`. `'` http://
th
non-free stuff.
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"you d
ply to our
own rules.
Are we just going to continue down this road? If yes, then someone
should propose a GR to revert the changes GR_2004_003 rather than
pretending that everything is hunky dory.
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of the keyring outside
>the archive. Individuals who wish to reuse the keyring for granting
>access to services to some or all Debian Maintainers may do so
>according to their own judgement, of course.
>
>In particular, this means that Debian maintainers do not partici
initial policy or plans for use of the keyring outside
>the archive. Individuals who wish to reuse the keyring for granting
> access to services to some or all Debian Maintainers may do so
>according to their own judgement, of course.
>
>In particular, this means th
Which of the candidates, if elected, would finally get me the ponies
I've been craving for years?
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also sprach <> [2007.02.10.1522 +]:
> I hereby nominate myself for the position of Debian Project Leader in
> the DPL elections of 2007.
Are you trying to tell us something by leaving out the From header?
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disruption!
I neither said disruption nor trouble.
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e noise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
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er the default option to be considered. The total
> number of votes doesn't matter. If you vote equal or lower than
> the default option, it doesn't add to the quorum.
So is there a difference between not voting and voting all options
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20 rule
all over again.
So far, I stand firmly behind aj in all of his decisions. I am glad
to see a DPL in charge who is looking for ways to shake up the
project before we rust or lose touch with reality.
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catch the irony.
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`- De
aybe I should thus propose a vote to resolve
that DDs must now stop wasting time and get back to work.
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also sprach Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.24.2207 +0200]:
> J)
> From: martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:56:38 +0200
>
> Signature made by expired key 220BC883330C4A75 Martin F
but
> we cannot fix the problem directly.
>
> Would you not agree that this affects the risk assessment?
Fortunately, nobody is talking about employing release managers.
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lieve in the project and you're not ready to steady
your stare foreward, I think there's a whole other issue at play.
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appy.
Last message from me. I'm now going to use my time towards the
release of etch instead of this kindergarten bullshit.
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ou manage to swim to the surface again.
Please cut it.
About trends in Debian: thank $DEITY there are some. I'd hate to be
part of a project that stagnates.
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as allowed by our Constitution (section 4.1.1) and am
> seeking seconds for this proposal.
*Not* seconded.
What the heck are you guys doing??? Let's release etch, please ffs.
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sfully delivering etch
> in time (and to allow us a successful planning of that).
>
>
> on behalf of the kernel- and release team
> Frederik Schueler
>
> --
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licensed in compliance with the DFSG without
> requiring source code for these works under DFSG #2; and
>
> 4. determines that for the purposes of DFSG #2, device firmware
> shall also not be considered a program.
>
> =
technical or nontechnical decisions, except
> > + that no decision by Debian with respect to any property held
> > + by the organisation shall require it to act outside its legal
> > + authority.
> > +2. Debian claims no authority over an organisation
-T
though.
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Invalid/expired PGP (sub)keys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver!
"conviction
pen. :)
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Invalid
nk more DSA are needed?
>
> As someone who isn't on the team, and only sees peoples complaints
> about poor communication, it does seem like more DSA are needed.
> As DPL I'd ask them directly what how they feel about that.
... and you won't if you don't become DPL?
licit that *it seemed to me* (and not only me) that things
started moving only after...
> The security team has discussed issues internally long before some
> people met in Oldenburg.
This is exactly one example where more transparency could benefit
all involved.
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y main languages.
This has no place on debian-vote and it's completely irrelevant to
Bill running for DPL.
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also sprach Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.08.0853 +0100]:
> This has been rejected by James Troup.
What was the reason?
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anently lower his/her libido to an unrecoverable level.
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then? Or do you simply
expect for many tasks to go undone and be happy with it?
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ebian Project Leader?
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ow a little bit about what's going on, and I do not think it was
a fiasco.
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er also has a feel for what's going on and needs not wait
for someone to alert him/her, especially in a topic as relevant as
Ubuntu.
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statement I would like to hear
from a potential leader. Did you mean it as such and have nothing to
say about the current state of Debian-Ubuntu?
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Invalid/expired PGP (sub)keys? Use subkeys.pgp.
t someone was simply pulling a joke on you and
you'd still run. :)
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