Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-12-09 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> Apologies for not having followed up on this message yet. I Russ> got rather busy with non-Debian things for a bit. Russ> To provide a status update, I think Kurt identified several Russ> significant issues and we need another revision.

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-12-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 08 Dec 2021, Russ Allbery wrote: > * Should we say that the proposers of ballot options need to provide the > short summaries at the end of the discussion period, or should we > specify that the Project Secretary writes them? I think it has always been a mix of both that has been

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-12-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Apologies for not having followed up on this message yet. I got rather busy with non-Debian things for a bit. To provide a status update, I think Kurt identified several significant issues and we need another revision. I hope to finish that soon, at least by next weekend if not sooner. There ar

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-12-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: >>> 7. Proposing a general resolution. >>> >>> When the Technical Committee proposes a general resolution or a >>> ballot option in a general resolution to the project under point >>> 4.2.1, it may delegate the authority to withdraw, amend,

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Thank you very much for the review! Kurt Roeckx writes: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >>6. If a vote is canceled under point 6.3.1.4 later than 13 days >> after the initial proposed resolution, the vote specified in >> point 6.3.1.5 i

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-11-30 at 17:36, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> 3. Minor changes to ballot options under point A.1.5 may not be made >>after or within 24 hours of the end of the discussion period unless >>the Project Secretary agr

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Section 6.3 > --- > > Replace 6.3.1 in its entirety with: > > 1. Resolution process. > >The Technical Committee uses the following process to prepare a >resolution for vote: > >1. Any member of t

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-29 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, I too would like to second the following quoted proposal. Thanks Russ. On Thu 25 Nov 2021 at 07:25PM -08, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates the formal > amendment to change the default option for TC resolutions to also be "None > of the a

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates the formal > amendment to change the default option for TC resolutions to also be "None > of the above" and fixes two typos. I've updated the website and changed the start

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 08:19:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Timo Röhling writes: > > > I was under the impression that this amendment by the original > > proposer does not require re-sponsoring, and my consent is > > implicitly assumed unless I choose to object. Am I wrong? > > > (If I am, c

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates Russ> the formal amendment to change the default option for TC Russ> resolutions to also be "None of the above" and fixes two Russ> typos. I still support this and my second s

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Russ Allbery dijo [Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 08:19:26AM -0800]: > > I was under the impression that this amendment by the original > > proposer does not require re-sponsoring, and my consent is > > implicitly assumed unless I choose to object. Am I wrong? > > > (If I am, consider this my sponsoring of

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Thanks, Russ. Seconded. Russ Allbery dijo [Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800]: > Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates the formal > amendment to change the default option for TC resolutions to also be "None > of the above" and fixes two typos. > > > Rationale > =

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Timo Röhling writes: > I was under the impression that this amendment by the original > proposer does not require re-sponsoring, and my consent is > implicitly assumed unless I choose to object. Am I wrong? > (If I am, consider this my sponsoring of the amended version) That's also my understan

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Holger Levsen
I second this. On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 07:25:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Section 4.2.4 > - > > Strike the sentence "The minimum discussion period is 2 weeks, but may be > varied by up to 1 week by the Project Leader." (A modified version of > this provision is added to section

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Timo Röhling
* Pierre-Elliott Bécue [2021-11-26 09:49]: Seconded. I was under the impression that this amendment by the original proposer does not require re-sponsoring, and my consent is implicitly assumed unless I choose to object. Am I wrong? (If I am, consider this my sponsoring of the amended version)

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-26 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Russ Allbery wrote on 26/11/2021 at 04:25:45+0100: > [[PGP Signed Part:No public key for 7D80315C5736DE75 created at > 2021-11-26T04:25:45+0100 using RSA]] > Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates the formal > amendment to change the default option for TC resolutions to a

GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

2021-11-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Here is an updated version of my proposal, which incorporates the formal amendment to change the default option for TC resolutions to also be "None of the above" and fixes two typos. Rationale = We have uncovered several problems with the current constitutional mechanism for preparing a