On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> So at the start of the week, I asked:
Eh, kudos for this "experiment", even if people on IRC commented that
there might have been a second reason for your question :-P, I didn't
see this coming. I feel like replying to a couple of y
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:46:49PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I suppose I shouldn't really be discussing this too much since it's a
> question for the DPL candidates rather than a general discussion topic,
I believe this kind of interaction is perfectly fine, as it is showing
various hidden face
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Bearing in mind:
> > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> > users and free software",
> > * popcon.debian.org currently reports
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I note Steve points out:
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 03:06:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/123481/index.html
>
> which cites estimates of 6-8 million Ubuntu users, for a factor of
> between
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:49:47PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > Then we can look at the official mirrors logs
> > (for distinct IPs regularly downloading package indexes in a given time
> > window), and at the same index down
Dear Anthony,
sorry for not keeping up with the answers, this campaign is very intensive !
It is interesting that your question was a kind of mini-experiment. As a
molecular biologist, I like experiments a lot. Below is the draft that I never
sent because I did not find time to add some flesh to
So at the start of the week, I asked:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Bearing in mind:
> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> users and free software",
> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> * popcon.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Anthony Towns wrote:
> What's your estimate of the current number of Debian users?
Do "Debian" users include "Debian derivatives" users? :)
I think this question is indeed very tricky, and I don't see the point
of it being posted as a question during the "campai
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:47:17AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> JFTR, I don't think that "a quick and easy poll" is always a
> sufficient way to resolve issues. I think one of the strength of
> Debian is that we try to analyze the situation before we do a
> decision.
I absolutely agree. On one ha
* Stefano Zacchiroli (z...@debian.org) [100322 21:50]:
> All in all, this is probably a topic where a quick and easy
> devotee-based poll might show where the DD body stands in the trade-off
> between the advantages and disadvantages of enabling popcon submissions
> by default, and finally get this
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [100323 01:47]:
> AJ's question, and particularly his other longer response to the question
> about disappearing DPLs, really highlight what I think are some
> disagreements between he and I about how we see Debian. I fundamentally
> do not believe in the "grow or
Ben Finney writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> We're running somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 Debian stable
>> servers. I'm afraid running popcon on them is a non-starter so far due
>> to concerns about information exposure. When this was previously
>> discussed on debian-devel, it became clea
Russ Allbery writes:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> >> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> >> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
> >> * that this is something of a trick question,
[…]
> We're running somewhere in
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> > users and free software",
> > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, an
On 22 March 2010 20:50, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> > Anthony Towns wrote:
>> >
>> > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
>> > > users an
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> >
> > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> > > users and free software",
> > > * popcon.debian.org curr
[ I reply here to both Anthony and Bernd questions, which are very much
intertwined. ]
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> users and free software",
> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,52
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> > users and free software",
> > * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> > * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports
* Russ Allbery , 2010-03-22, 13:35:
* www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
users and free software",
* popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
* popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
* that this is something of a trick q
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:19:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> Bearing in mind:
>
> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> users and free software",
> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports
Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
>> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
>> users and free software",
>> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
>> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
>> * that this i
Anthony Towns wrote:
> * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> users and free software",
> * popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
> * popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
> * that this is something of a trick questio
Hi *,
Bearing in mind:
* www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
users and free software",
* popcon.debian.org currently reports 91,523 submissions,
* popcon.ubuntu.com currently reports 1,493,440 submissions, and
* that this is something of a trick question,
Wha
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