Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-04-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Agreed, but would you agree that it is a core part of the role of the DPL/2IC, or indeed any mediator, to provide at least basic status and progress info to the project as a whole? Yes, absolutely. Beside this specific case---which

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Margarita and Stefano, On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:03:00PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: [snip] On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 05:30:50PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [snip] Thank you for your replies. I am glad that you care about this issue, and have voiced your opinion on how to handle

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah a écrit : My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing such inadequate maintenance of important packages. Hello Kumar, for the moment, you have taken the way of the Technical Comitee, and this does not require the

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Kumar, On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: Dear Candidates, First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections! At the outset, this question is not meant to be inflammatory or to express ire at a particular individual or set of individuals involved;

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: One of the questions which I've not yet seen exactly in the discussions is on the transparency in the maintenance of non-core but important packages, such as python, wherein the maintenance of the package and policy (till a

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Charles, On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:23:25AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: for the moment, you have taken the way of the Technical Comitee, and this does not require the intervention of the DPL. Asking the TC to solve a disagreement between two parties should be the occasion to write down

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in writes: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't wish to comment on the specific case of python packaging. There's been lots of things going on there, and though some of it was in public, the thread you point to clearly

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:05:40PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: One of the questions which I've not yet seen exactly in the discussions is on the transparency in the maintenance of non-core but important packages, such as

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Frans Pop
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Discussing problems in public works very well if two people like eachother. If they don't, however, you get two people cursing at eachother. Now there are some people who really don't mind doing that in public; but when things get messy, not being messy out in the open

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit : Also, it has been claimed we cannot provide any information because discussions are in private [1]. Do candidates agree to that, or do they think that a DPL should make clear to parties in advance that the project will be kept

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-29 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Kumar Appaiah a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote: My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing such inadequate maintenance of important packages, or are you of the opinion that is it up to the affected Debian community to stop whining and

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections! Hi Kumar, thanks a lot! This has led some parts of the community (Debian Python, in this case) to knock the doors of the tech-ctte[1] (recommended reading, unless you

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-28 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 16:51, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: ... unfortunately some of the involved parties did not reply to the offer. Not some, just one: the Python maintainer. (as said in the bug log.) Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website:

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-28 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Zack, Thanks for the response. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 04:51:52PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing such inadequate maintenance of important packages, or are you of the opinion that is it up to the affected Debian

Re: Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

2010-03-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 09:59:08AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote: The method adopted for resolution of this conflict has, for better or for worse, happened behind-the-scenes. Now, some in the project feel that this is the best way to avoid a conflagration of sorts, but others feel that this back