Re: Still having lots of trouble with Alt/Meta keys

2004-09-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 01:46:53PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > All I want is for my Windows keys to send Meta, and xterm to treat that like > > Escape. This requires XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true. [For some reason, I > > have > > to start an x

Re: Still having lots of trouble with Alt/Meta keys

2004-09-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > All I want is for my Windows keys to send Meta, and xterm to treat that like > Escape. This requires XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true. [For some reason, I have > to start an xterm, run xrdb in it, and start a new xterm for this to take > effect. I can'

Re: Still having lots of trouble with Alt/Meta keys

2004-09-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 10:26:52PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:00:27PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > [...] > > Without metaSendsEscape alt-b generates an accented a. I turn on > > altwin:meta_win: > > > > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) > > lock

Re: Still having lots of trouble with Alt/Meta keys

2004-09-19 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:00:27PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: [...] > Without metaSendsEscape alt-b generates an accented a. I turn on > altwin:meta_win: > > shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) > lockCaps_Lock (0x42) > control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) > mod1

Still having lots of trouble with Alt/Meta keys

2004-09-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
I added some information to #259740, but I'm hopelessly confused as to what bug which bug report is describing; nothing discussed in that bug report has helped me so far. I'm trying to use altwin:meta_win. Trying very, very hard, in fact. Not in any complicated X applications; just in xterm. Th

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Charl P. Botha wrote: > It's not always the desired solution. Some keyboards _do_ have separate > META keys and always binding meta to alt would be very rude. The same goes > for binding escape to meta. Ok. But rxvt or gnome-terminal for example work out-of-the-box. I'll try to find out what th

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:41:25PM +0100, Stefan Schwandter wrote: > Charl P. Botha wrote: > > Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the > > first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to > > Thomas Dickey. > > I meant the second one. If the

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Charl P. Botha wrote: > Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the > first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to > Thomas Dickey. I meant the second one. If the first one is a working solution, can't it (or anonther solution) be integrated

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Charl P. Botha
Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to Thomas Dickey. On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:17:43PM +0100, Stefan Schwandter wrote: > Tor Slettnes wrote: > > Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Tor Slettnes wrote: > Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X > Charl> resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e > Charl> "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations > Charl> to work in an xterm, e.g. on the command-line (e.g. alt

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Charl P. Botha wrote: > It's not always the desired solution. Some keyboards _do_ have separate > META keys and always binding meta to alt would be very rude. The same goes > for binding escape to meta. Ok. But rxvt or gnome-terminal for example work out-of-the-box. I'll try to find out what t

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:41:25PM +0100, Stefan Schwandter wrote: > Charl P. Botha wrote: > > Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the > > first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to > > Thomas Dickey. > > I meant the second one. If the

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Charl P. Botha wrote: > Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the > first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to > Thomas Dickey. I meant the second one. If the first one is a working solution, can't it (or anonther solution) be integrate

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Charl P. Botha
Do you mean the first or the second solution? I can only speak for the first, which works perfectly here and which is _a_ solution according to Thomas Dickey. On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:17:43PM +0100, Stefan Schwandter wrote: > Tor Slettnes wrote: > > Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment,

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-26 Thread Stefan Schwandter
Tor Slettnes wrote: > Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X > Charl> resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e > Charl> "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations > Charl> to work in an xterm, e.g. on the command-line (e.g. al

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-16 Thread Tor Slettnes
> "Charl" == Charl P Botha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X Charl> resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e Charl> "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations Charl> to work in an xterm, e.

Re: alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-15 Thread Tor Slettnes
> "Charl" == Charl P Botha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charl> Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X Charl> resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e Charl> "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations Charl> to work in an xterm, e

alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-14 Thread Charl P. Botha
Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations to work in an xterm, e.g. on the command-line (e.g. alt-f and alt-b for skipping words forwards and backwards) or in programs l

alt->meta->esc status quo

2001-12-14 Thread Charl P. Botha
Dear Debian-Xers, At the moment, I need to set the X resource xterm*metaSendsEscape to true and to do xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" to get Alt+key combinations to work in an xterm, e.g. on the command-line (e.g. alt-f and alt-b for skipping words forwards and backwards) or in programs

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 03:57:16PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On 6.X.2001 at 23:06 Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I'll see if I can figure out how to create an options file for it. (A > > la /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ctrl). > > I haven't tested this as now I am not using X: Thanks! This defin

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 03:57:16PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On 6.X.2001 at 23:06 Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > I'll see if I can figure out how to create an options file for it. (A > > la /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ctrl). > > I haven't tested this as now I am not using X: Thanks! This defi

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 6.X.2001 at 23:06 Branden Robinson wrote: > > I'll see if I can figure out how to create an options file for it. (A > la /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ctrl). I haven't tested this as now I am not using X: partial modifier_keys xkb_symbols "alt

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 6.X.2001 at 23:06 Branden Robinson wrote: > > I'll see if I can figure out how to create an options file for it. (A > la /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ctrl). I haven't tested this as now I am not using X: partial modifier_keys xkb_symbols "al

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Scott Dier
* Derek J Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011008 00:17]: > Yeah, I'm used to the separate keys. I still don't like the position of > the caps lock on a sun5 keyboard (I think that's the type on an Ultra Wow, I wish all users were so civil about the keymappings on suns. :) -- Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-08 Thread Derek J Witt
Yeah, I'm used to the separate keys. I still don't like the position of the caps lock on a sun5 keyboard (I think that's the type on an Ultra sparc 5). But, that's an issue I can fix with xmodmap when using my Solaris account on campus. If I want to re-enable the extra keys, I can just use xmodmap

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-07 Thread Scott Dier
* Derek J Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011008 00:17]: > Yeah, I'm used to the separate keys. I still don't like the position of > the caps lock on a sun5 keyboard (I think that's the type on an Ultra Wow, I wish all users were so civil about the keymappings on suns. :) -- Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-07 Thread Derek J Witt
Yeah, I'm used to the separate keys. I still don't like the position of the caps lock on a sun5 keyboard (I think that's the type on an Ultra sparc 5). But, that's an issue I can fix with xmodmap when using my Solaris account on campus. If I want to re-enable the extra keys, I can just use xmodma

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 12:53:25PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, > > hence this change. > > Having separate alt and meta keys is one of the things that really > impressed me about Debian in the first place. (Far from the only >

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 12:53:25PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, > > hence this change. > > Having separate alt and meta keys is one of the things that really > impressed me about Debian in the first place. (Far from the only

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 03:56:41AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Especially Emacs users. Xtifr looks up. > Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, > hence this change. Having separate alt and meta keys is one of the things that really impressed me about Debian in

Re: proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Chris Waters
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 03:56:41AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Especially Emacs users. Xtifr looks up. > Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, > hence this change. Having separate alt and meta keys is one of the things that really impressed me about Debian i

proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
Could people apply the following patch and tell me if things continue to work properly for them? Especially Emacs users. Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, hence this change. If you want alt and meta on different keys, leave the file as-is. Thanks! --- /etc/X1

proposed alt/meta change to /etc/X11/symbols/us

2001-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
Could people apply the following patch and tell me if things continue to work properly for them? Especially Emacs users. Having separate alt and meta keys appears to be popular with no one, hence this change. If you want alt and meta on different keys, leave the file as-is. Thanks! --- /etc/X

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-22 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
HvdM> Aah, I see. I talked to this friend, I think he lied, couldn't figure it HvdM> out. I've installed on another machine where I discovered this to be the HvdM> case. So to get e.g. emacs to use alt instead of win-key (more HvdM> conveniently placed ;) I need to edit the X keymap? Just change t

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-22 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
HvdM> Aah, I see. I talked to this friend, I think he lied, couldn't figure it HvdM> out. I've installed on another machine where I discovered this to be the HvdM> case. So to get e.g. emacs to use alt instead of win-key (more HvdM> conveniently placed ;) I need to edit the X keymap? Just change

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > > > > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > > > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > > > win-keys, but alt works fine... > > > > Still does, it's just mapped differently. ;) Upstream changed the default

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > > win-keys, but alt works fine... > > Still does, it's just mapped differently. ;) Upstream changed the default > mapping. Aah, I see. I talked to t

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > > > > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > > > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > > > win-keys, but alt works fine... > > > > Still does, it's just mapped differently. ;) Upstream changed the defaul

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > > win-keys, but alt works fine... > > Still does, it's just mapped differently. ;) Upstream changed the default > mapping. Aah, I see. I talked to

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > > > > You have a Win**-Keyboard, Meta is mapped to the left Win-key. > > > > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > win-keys, but alt works fine... Still does, it

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > > > > You have a Win**-Keyboard, Meta is mapped to the left Win-key. > > > > I will go play with the Win-key's when I get the chance. The odd thing > is I have the same configuration in my config file, and I also have > win-keys, but alt works fine... Still does, i

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-21 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> Are you using i386, what kind of keyboard do you have, what is your > keyboard-configuration in XF86Config? It is i386, yes. Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > You have a Win**-Keyboard, Meta is mapped to the left Win-key. > I wi

Re: Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-20 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> Are you using i386, what kind of keyboard do you have, what is your > keyboard-configuration in XF86Config? It is i386, yes. Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > You have a Win**-Keyboard, Meta is mapped to the left Win-key. > I w

Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-20 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
I ran xemacs on a friend's machine... pressing Alt-X gives me "A-x not defined." - what is broken here? It should return M-x, so where is the keymapping broken? He is running unstable, usually updated every few days. Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe ps. please CC to me, thanks.

Alt, Meta ...

2001-09-20 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
I ran xemacs on a friend's machine... pressing Alt-X gives me "A-x not defined." - what is broken here? It should return M-x, so where is the keymapping broken? He is running unstable, usually updated every few days. Thanks, Hugo van der Merwe ps. please CC to me, thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,