Re: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question

2002-10-25 Thread grb
At 08:15 PM 10/24/02, you wrote: Thats correct...It reads it each time a message is received. We plan to work on a similar tool using ASP here in the next month or two. Bill ASP?arg... just kiddin' I'll do the CF thingy sounds like a good test..I like

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question

2002-10-25 Thread David Lewis-Waller
We're developing an ASP solution for this as well, initially just modifying the users $default$.junkmail file and providing WARN/SUBJECT changes initially, then progressing onto WEIGHT change etc. later. If we offer too much at first otherwise we make a rod for our own back and drown in client

[Declude.JunkMail] Unwanted E-cards filling email inboxes

2002-10-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; I thought this could be of interest, in case you don't get the warnings from Sophos. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: Sophos Alert System [mailto:emergency-return;lists.sophos.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sophos advises on

[Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS not working: follow-up

2002-10-25 Thread Declude Junkmail
Recap - In three days, I've only had one message trip the HELOBOGUS test. Here's the recap: 1) I'm catching lots of spam with other tests 2) Scott checked the header of a message (see posting at Thu 10/24/2002 2:17 PM) and didn't note any problems New information: 1) I'm running Declude 1.60 2)

[Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread paul
Ok, I need to whitelist a sender within our domain 2khiway, how do I do this? I looked at the manual, but it shows NO after the line that mentions it, it's not allowed? What I was going to do, in global.cfg, in outgoing section or does it matter? WHITELIST FROM[EMAIL PROTECTED] is this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS not working: follow-up

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Recap - In three days, I've only had one message trip the HELOBOGUS test. Here's the recap: 1) I'm catching lots of spam with other tests 2) Scott checked the header of a message (see posting at Thu 10/24/2002 2:17 PM) and didn't note any problems New information: 1) I'm running Declude 1.60

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Ok, I need to whitelist a sender within our domain 2khiway, how do I do this? I looked at the manual, but it shows NO after the line that mentions it, it's not allowed? Hmm... do you mean NOTE:? What I was going to do, in global.cfg, in outgoing section or does it matter? WHITELIST FROM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] client Question

2002-10-25 Thread Charles Frolick
Ok, Sounds like everyone is building a tool of some sort, might no hurt to get some collaboration going. I recently posted a link to a spam reviewing ASP app, and I am working on a way to modify the users rules files to filter based on a standard declude config. If any ASP developers want a look

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread paul
Hmm... do you mean NOTE:? just no. The section Whitelist/Blacklist Reference, the last portion points to ALLOWED. So it's yes or no. That is correct (it can go anywhere in the global.cfg file). ok. This will also allow quite a bit of spam to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since many

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
just no. The section Whitelist/Blacklist Reference, the last portion points to ALLOWED. So it's yes or no. Ah, that's the Comments Allowed column. That just means that you can't have comments on that whitelist line. This will also allow quite a bit of spam to be delivered to [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender =recipient

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have noticed that many spammers in recent months have begun to use the recipients email as the senders email. Yes, I've commented on it twice today. :) Can this be trapped by the current tests or should I request a new test to cover this? The only legitimate mail that would pass this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Be careful if you do this... A lot of people actually send messages to others as BCC and then put themselves in To in order to make sure it has gone out. We see a lot of that. Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com] On

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread John Tolmachoff
Be careful if you do this... A lot of people actually send messages to others as BCC and then put themselves in To in order to make sure it has gone out. We see a lot of that. I too see that. One of our largest clients will often send out excess inventory lists to several people. As those

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Todd Holt
Have these people never heard of the sent items folder? I know people do this a lot, but it is not necessary (IMHO) and generates extra mail traffic. We have tried very hard to teach our people to use the sent items so we don't have a huge problem with marking these as spam. $.02 This method of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS not working: follow-up

2002-10-25 Thread Declude Junkmail
Scott, When I reviewed the debug log, I found that I was actually running v1.53 - I had never copied 1.60 to the \IMail folder (I had just copied it to \Imail\Declude). I'm going to let it run over the weekend and then if it isn't looking right, I'll capture a debug log and send it to you. If it

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread John Tolmachoff
Have these people never heard of the sent items folder? What about when I am working at a client and check my e-mail via web mail? If I have to respond to something, I would want a copy of it in my sent mail in my Outlook, so I BCC myself and when I get back to the office, I move the copy into

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread paul
Oh yeah I agree with everyone's opinions on this. One of our customers BCCs himself ALL the time, as well as his wife in the same room. I don't know why people can't look into the sent box. Paul - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread paul
This will also allow quite a bit of spam to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since many spammers now use the recipient's address as the sender's address. So, does can Declude filter based on X-Declude sender? or does it just recognise the From sender? for when the from changes but the X

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Trent M. Davenport
I normally bcc everyone with no-one in the TO address when I'm forwarding anything, just so everyone doesn't have to wade through all the names to get to the information. I've seen many times where when there is nothing in the TO line, our mail server must be adding my name as the TO. Won't

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelisting senders.

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
So, does can Declude filter based on X-Declude sender? The X-Declude-Sender: header lists the return address of the E-mail, which you can filter on (either with a fromfile test type (sender blacklist), or with a filter). Both work based on the return address, not the From: header.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS not working: follow-up

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
When I reviewed the debug log, I found that I was actually running v1.53 - I had never copied 1.60 to the \IMail folder (I had just copied it to \Imail\Declude). I had thought of double-checking that, but since an E-mail had failed the test, I figured you were using 1.60. :) I'm going to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
I sometimes send messages to multiple recipients as BCCswith myself as TO. I think that's prefereable to putting all the recipients as TO. Doesn't OE refuse to send if TO is blank? Or does it just pop up a warning, but will send anyway after OKing the warning -- I've never left TO blank, so

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Mike
himself ALL the time, as well as his wife in the same room. I don't know why people can't look into the sent box. Because if you use IMAP and Outlook express, and send from one machine, the mail won't appear in the sent folder on another machine. Maybe I'm a weirdo or something, but I send

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-25 Thread Charles Frolick
The owner of my company also has another company in the office, and they all send out as the group alias and CC the group alias so everyone has a complete copy of communications with customers. No one can say I didn't know what he said to the customer. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
I recently downloaded the declude log test analyzer and was wondering how you take it out of demo mode. I checked the online documentation and it says that you can't register it until it is out of beta version. Has anybody been able to use of its functions, such as sending reports while it is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Craig Gittens
I need a little help: Does JM scan your own domain outgoing mail? I would like to stop the jdbgmgr.exe hoax emails. i thought this would work but it doesn't. I set this up: Global.cfg: VirusHoax filter c:\Imail\Declude\virhoax.txtx 0 0 $default$.junkmail:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Does JM scan your own domain outgoing mail? Declude JunkMail Pro will scan outgoing mail (using the outgoing actions from the global.cfg file). I would like to stop the jdbgmgr.exe hoax emails. i thought this would work but it doesn't. I set this up: Global.cfg: VirusHoax filter

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
It looks like the original question I posted got changed when it was relied to with a totally different question. Does anybody know how to take the Declude log test analyzer out of demo mode without registering it? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
It looks like the original question I posted got changed when it was relied to with a totally different question. Does anybody know how to take the Declude log test analyzer out of demo mode without registering it? Thanks There are a number of third party tools at http://www.declude.com/tools

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer (DELOG)

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
The one I was referring to was DELOG http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/, which analyzes the declude junkmail log files. I downloaded it but can't use it's full functionality in beta mode, but can't register it because it is in beta mode. It was mentioned in here so I was wondering if anybody

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Tom
I recently downloaded the declude log test analyzer and was wondering how you take it out of demo mode. I checked the online documentation and it says that you can't register it until it is out of beta version. Has anybody been able to use of its functions, such as sending reports while

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
Actually I haven't been able to get the t_rep: LOG option to work either. This option would write a report to the file delmmdd.log in the same location as the declude log files. I guess similar to creating a batch file, except it would use the date of the log file as its name. Was this feature

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Tom
Actually I haven't been able to get the t_rep: LOG option to work either. This option would write a report to the file delmmdd.log in the same location as the declude log files. I guess similar to creating a batch file, except it would use the date of the log file as its name. Was this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
Thanks for all your help and I guess I'll wait until they are reinvented but in the meantime I'll still use Delog as it is a useful utility. ~~~ Karl Hentschel Network Administrator A+, Network+, MCP ~~~ Peninsula Community Federal Credit

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Tom
Thanks for all your help and I guess I'll wait until they are reinvented but in the meantime I'll still use Delog as it is a useful utility. Sorry for the inconvenience, however, like we said before Delog was written in a language that is no longer supported and has too many problems for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Tom
I just remembered! There is another Declude log analyzer someone wrote for NT. I have the zip files if anyone needs them or you can look at the mail archives for a download link. Usage version 1.2 By Jeff Pitoniak [ Description:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread John Higday
I am interested in this program if it will work on Win2000 iMail 7.13 and Declude 1.61 Beta John - Original Message - From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer I just remembered!

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Tom
I am interested in this program if it will work on Win2000 iMail 7.13 and Declude 1.61 Beta I don't know, it's not mine and I have never tested it. However, I will e-mail it to you. Regards, Tom Image`fx --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] ---

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log test analyzer

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Hentschel
I am interested in that program. Thanks. ~~~ Karl Hentschel Network Administrator A+, Network+, MCP ~~~ Peninsula Community Federal Credit Union http://www.pcfcu.org (800) 426-1601 Ext. 3070 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL