Darin.
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Darin,
One thing to factor in is that when you have a large group of processes
launced
e CPU usage.
Darin.
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Darin,
One thing to factor in is that when you have a large group of processe
r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:43 AM
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Simple - if declude waits 5 seconds for example for processing, and in this
5 seconds there are now 100 messages present, they get processed by declude
and then dumped
Wow... I think I need the specs on that environment... I must be doing
something very wrong.
Darin.
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Darin Cox wrote:
avis
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Darin Cox wrote:
In picture form, we're looking at something like
80 | /\ /\
40 | / \
Matt,
Nice peaks.
David B
www.declude.com
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Darin Cox wrote:
>In pict
] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
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Is there any good reason why all of these various settings are not set up so
that each message gets processed as it comes in - only limiting the
See my other post for a "picture"... maybe saving a thousand words .
Darin.
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Darin,
From
Darin Cox wrote:
In picture form, we're looking at something like
80 | /\ /\
40 | / \/ \
0 |__/\_/\___
vs
80 |
40 | ---
0 |___/ \___
Interesting...mine looks like this though :)
.::
r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:43 AM
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Simple - if declude waits 5 seconds for example for processing, and in this
5 seconds there are now 100 messages present, they get processed by declude
and then dumped to Imai
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:11 AM
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No messages slipping thru - all messgaes are being processed correctly. I'm
thnking it was just due to the waitformail in the cfg file. If declude was
waiting to process based on this, then it would be dumpin
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Simple - if declude waits 5 seconds for example for processing, and in this
5 seconds there are
.
Randy
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I don't follow. How is declude dumping more mail for
proccessing and adding emails to the Queue
David B
www.declude.com
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is would cause an increase...
Randy
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H... very strange. The only thing
rease...
Randy
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H... very strange. The only thing I can think of that would
between IMail and Declude on
3.05.11?
Declude?
Darin.
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Your guess is as good as minebut it was. And
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But Queuemanager is IMail, not Declude. Why would it run higher unless
there was more load on the server (i.e. more messages being processed)?
Darin.
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Decludeproc runs at a higher CPU with v11 as compared to v5 - queuemgr also
runs a it higher. These 2 services are the ones that most consumes CPU with
v11
Randy
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: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 04:14 PM
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Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :)
>> How do I explain the apparent inconsistency where users report that
>> the
CPU consumption is considerable higher th
rest.
Randy
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Can you give me an idea of the CPU % of each of these? I know
4:26 PM
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Hmmm? You said queuemanager increased CPU usage as well. Were you just
meaning that only decludeproc and queuemanager were using CPU on the server?
Darin.
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Decludeproc and queuemgr
Randy
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/webmessaging.
Perhaps that will help them see your problem clearer.
Travis
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I have repeatedly switch back and f
.
David B
www.declude.com
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It seems to me that something changed in the
2 PM
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No change in message load - I randomly picked approx 7pm yesterday to
upgrade.
Decludeproc service ran at a lower CPU at version 3.0.5.5
Sincerely,
Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http
www.declude.com
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I'm surely with you about this Andy. Already enough tim
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> Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :)
>
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Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of
upgrading Declude.
I just can't figure out
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Hmmm... if queuemanager CPU is increasing, then that would point to more
messages being processed, wouldn'
after the Declude upgrade?
Darin.
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Decludeproc and queuemgr
Randy
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Decludeproc and queuemgr
Randy
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Randy,
Can you confirm for me the
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I've changed WAITFORMAIL to 500 and this seemed to help a bit more. I am
still seeing a collection of about 50 messages b
www.declude.com
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David,
Do you have an exhaustive explanation of what
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Allow me to make a correction - under normal daytime loads, we are seeing an
increase in CPU - steady at 80-90%. Under 3.0.5.5 we saw an average of 40%
Sincerely,
Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http
f Erik
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 02:53 PM
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I'm surely with you about this Andy. Already enough time spent dealing with
adjusting filters to control spam and it seems by this list; more time is
spent being a di
Andy Schmidt
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>
> Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly
> scared of upgrading Declude.
>
> I just can't figure out
e-
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Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of
upgrading Declude
My sentiments exactly. Well said.
Dan
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Okay, I'm watching
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I changed the THRE
http://globalweb.net
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I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to
ude.com
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Randy try changing
WAITFORMAIL 1500
To
WAITFORMAIL 500
See if that changes the delay.
David B
www.declude.com
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Randy try changing
WAITFORMAIL 1500
To
WAITFORMAIL 500
See if that changes the delay
@declude.com
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We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 -
but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them
to the work folder. Do not see any problems so far exce
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We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down
Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
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Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram imail 8.05 declude, sniffer & invurbl
The issue is that without changing anything oth
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>
> Yes, again the ideal is that the CPU usage bounces, So you
> could start at 150 then if it pegged at 100
ener, ON,N2M 1L2
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> Someone
Duh, I failed 1st grade math. Try THREADS 75.
John
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Someone correct me, but
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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Someone correct me, but with 3.4GHz couldn't you try THREADS 150 and back
down from there if needed? Wouldn't that help some?
>From http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=167
"Performance can vary due to se
o: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
>
> I am not sure how it would keep the \proc dir empty more than
> it usually, as your settings waitbetweenthreads 100 compared
> to the default waitbetweenthreads 1 would only increase the
> time 100 f
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It works better but also changes the behaviour somewhat.
The way I had it, it continuously kept t
, October 24, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
It works better but also changes the behaviour somewhat.
The way I had it, it continuously kept the proc directory empty because once
threads were available it brought mail into the work
005 1:55 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
>
> Harry, try commenting out
>
> #waitforthreads 1500
> #waitbetweenthreads 100
>
> David B
> www.declude.com
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTE
nical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram imail 8.05 declude, sniffer & invurbl
The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs
It appears that processing has changed
If I could get some idea from Declude about t
lf Of John Carter
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
>
> Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any
> previous version -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
>
> What process i
?, that kind of thing.)
John
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage
When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably and mail
gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
Harry Vanderzand
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