FWIW, that second link is a story on WhatsUp Pro, not ICS.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf Tombe
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:17 PM
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A goggle
A goggle search on news related to Ipswitch shows they have
gotten two of their press releases printed publicizing the
brilliant move by Ipswitch in âGoing Proâ and âTaking on
Exchangeâ. Iâm sure the MBAs are delighted with the self-
congratulatory free marketing they are getting from these.
My wild guess is that the "brain trust" at Ipswitch decided they either needed to
lower their prices or raise them.
I don't blame them for deciding to switch to a higher pricing / less customers
business plan. I do blame them for what appears to be a horrid transition.
They do have some time t
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:05 AM
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So we have been baited for seven years?? And now the ol' Ipswitch-a-roo??? I
know there is a lot of anger, frustration
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JC> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Lee Heath
JC> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:37 AM
JC> To: Sean Fahey
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JC> Funny but sadly true.
JC> Definition: &quo
Fahey
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Funny but sadly true.
Definition: "A sales tactic in which a bargain-priced item is used to
attract customers who are then encouraged to purchase a more expensive
similar item."
This is a punishable legal offense. I do
Funny but sadly true.
Definition: "A sales tactic in which a bargain-priced item is used to
attract customers who are then encouraged to purchase a more expensive
similar item."
This is a punishable legal offense. I do think there is very clearly a
basis for action against Ipswitch here. I do
LOL!
Darin.
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From: "Sean Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:09 AM
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So, you're saying this is an example of "bait and I
So, you're saying this is an example of "bait and Ipswitch?"
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> I don't think any of us would be as upset if a year ago
> Ipswitch published their intentions to kill off Imail which
> would have allowed everyone to come up with migration plans
> or upgrade.
Exactly.
In fact, I find Ipswitch's actions to be completely deceitful.
Here is the email from the 8
Great article! Ipswitch wouldnt be the first company destroyed by an MBA,
they seem to be so enamoured with their MBA status that they overlook the
reason the company was succesful in the first place...
I bet the MBAs and Marketing people at Ipswitch ride to and from work in a
short bus
Rick D
The only reason to freak out is because Ipswich has pissed off their
customer base by not giving people a heads up and slapping us in the fact
Well I think a lot of us are concerned because we have invested a lot of
money and time into Imail:
1. platform - Windows vs. free Linux alternative
2. ad
All,
We're missing one huge point and that is why purchase support agreements
from Ipswitch.
Let's review.
1. To get phone support.
2. To get major software updates.
Everyone else keeps adding:
3. To get security hotfixes.
However, #3 is incorrect: From Ipswitch.com
Patches and Upgrades - Regis
Bud Durland wrote:
There's been an almost hysterical reaction to the ICS announcement.
People have right to be angry & disappointed over it; but traffic on
he iMail list almost seems like a knee-jerk reaction: "Good lord
that's a lot of money -- I'm buying something else right now". If GM
dec
Jason,
I've been using both Mailenable Pro and SmarterMail so I'll give my input
and hope it helps.
Personally I would love to see Declude in both products and it seems
to be viable since both allow third party "hooks" (especially
mailenable.
sl> Just looking at the screen shot for the
sl>
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MG> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MG> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry
MG> Simpson
MG> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:02 PM
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MG> Subject: RE: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]Declude and Ipswitch ICS
MG> Marcus,
MG&g
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 8:25:58 PM, Mailing wrote:
ML> No question that the built in spam and av protection for smartertools is
ML> no-where close to Declude.
ML> Their antispam is made of blacklists (you can add your own as well) and
ML> bayesian which I really like, but that's it. The end
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Hey PV,
Thanks for the feedback.
My issue on changing - j
Thank you. That is excellent commentary and shows a reality
centered focus on the issues at hand.
--
Roger Heath
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sl> So... I saw this link on the Ipswitch forums and it's a good read - I
sl> don't think it's been post
Hey PV,
Thanks for the feedback.
My issue on changing - just like everyone else here - is that Declude
Junk/Virus is doing great for us and then moving to a new mail server
and just "hoping" it will work as they (the new vendor) say it will
... I don't believe it. Just looking at the scree
it will work in a high-volume
environment. And I think ME also has an Imail migration util.
PV
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Hi PV,
Interested in knowing how the SmarterTools Mail Server works for you
-- as well as the MailEnable. I was in the process of testing the
SmarterTools Stats program.
The whole IPSWITCH is unbelievable in my opinion and I am in the
process of installing a mail server in a new e
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There's been an almost hysterical reaction to the ICS announcement.
...
Yes I know that my server will not stop working a certain day only because
the SA
ge-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bud Durland
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:06 AM
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Markus Gufler wrote:
So you're recommendation for the moment is to k
IPSwitches
part.
Kevin Bilbee
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> There's been an almost hysterical reaction to the ICS announcement.
> ...
Yes I know that my server will not stop working a certain day only because
the SA expires.
But what if there will happen something like a new MS Update that I must
implement but will kill imail functionality. You know t
Barry Simpson wrote:
Our
immediate goal is to produce a ‘gateway’
version of Declude that will be downloadable and work within the
‘Windows’
environment.
Barry, that's the first time that someone from your company has even
indicated an OS that you are working on, and this is informa
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SimpsonSent: 26. oktober 2004 20:02To:
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Declude and Ipswitch ICS
Our immediate goal is
to produce a gateway version of Declude that
this are good news :-)
thanks
Markus
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SimpsonSent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:02 PMTo:
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Declude and Ipswitch ICS
Marcus,
We
Markus Gufler wrote:
So you're recommendation for the moment is to keep on IMail until
you're ready with something else?
That's really the most common sense approach, isn't it?
There's been an almost hysterical reaction to the ICS announcement.
People have right to be angry & disappointed over
get something out the door that will in effect be MTA independent.
Regards
Barry
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004
1:24 PM
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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Ipswitch ICS
Now the shit is
steaming"
Markus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry
SimpsonSent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:01 PMTo:
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Ipswitch ICS
By now
most of you will have see
By now
most of you will have seen the recent announcement by Ipswitch of their product
repackaging. Like you, we are disappointed by their decision to effectively
impose a price increase to their base product offerings and to burden existing
and future customers who appreciate the advantage
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