RE: [Declude.JunkMail] no Subject or Contents

2003-12-09 Thread Danny Klopfer
: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] no Subject or Contents I have seen 2 messages now that have nothing in the subject and nothing in the body. Is there a way to block these? You should be able to use a line such as SUBJECT 3 ISBLANK

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] no Subject or Contents

2003-12-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
I tried to look at the source for the body and it would not let me. Plus when I open the message it says Untitled - Message (Plain Text). So that would mean it is blank, right? Perhaps -- it would depend on your mail client. However, if it doesn't let you view the source, I would be suspicious

[Declude.JunkMail] Changing subject lines.

2003-12-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Some one's e-mail client keeps changing/fixing/correcting/whatever the subject line and making it longer and longer. Please fix it. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-02 Thread Pete McNeil
easy to code. Just a thought. _M |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan |Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:54 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with | | |[Bill] [stranger] [things] [have

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-02 Thread Pete McNeil
Ha ha ha! plop... (laughs his head off) |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry |Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:22 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with | | |Oh, yes, now it get

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
is run?/newbie Andrew ;) -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with I recommend a simple scheme of simple characters and escape sequences. Borrowing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
, December 02, 2003 12:12 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with newbieOooh! Scott, how about you *just* implement in the next interim full regexp text processing like product X along with MIME decoding like product Y, MIME error handling like product Z

[Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Scott, feature request. (Sigh, another one.) Can you add something like this: SUBJECT 0 STARTSWITHSPACE I am seeing a good amount of spam where the subject line starts with a space and then some character and then the subject. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, feature request. (Sigh, another one.) Can you add something like this: SUBJECT 0 STARTSWITHSPACE I am seeing a good amount of spam where the subject line starts with a space and then some character and then the subject. Ah, good idea -- I'll see if we can add

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
Scott, Instead of adding it a command, how about you just create a substitution string for space, i.e. [space]. This way it could be used in this fashion, as well as before some words (as a delimiter in the sense that Bill earlier suggested). SUBJECT 0 BEGINSWITH [space] BODY

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Matthew Bramble
This way, if it starts a trend, we can not filter on [space] anymore.. Yes, but right now we can't filter on a space :) Scott might also get a little fancy and convert the special character combinations from MIME like =3D to ASCII equivalents before processing the filters. He's already

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with I have to agree with Kami. I would rather not define reserved words. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
That's just it, I am seeing the use of [] in spam subject lines. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:32 PM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Kami Razvan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with It's not really a reserved word since the suggestion was space enclosed in square brackets - how often have you seen

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
So how would that hurt anything if all it provides is a way to delimit a test and tell Declude that this [space] is a space? Bill - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: RE

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
Oh, yes, now it get it... [eye rolling out of head onto floor] ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with [Bill] [stranger] [things] [have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Starts with

2003-12-01 Thread Bill Landry
to trigger a match. This is the same type of delimiter capability being requested for Declude. Hope this helps to clarify... Bill - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Landry
Ditto for me, not a single message ever caught by this test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B Hi; I suggested body blank but frankly

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread Omar K.
Everyone pats John on his back and assure him they have all gone through similar experiences :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 7:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Everyone pats John on his back and assure him they have all gone through similar experiences :) Oh, I feel so much better now, thanks. Actually, I found another one this morning. Turns out though it is a badly broken header to where the body (html) ends up seen in the header. John Tolmachoff

[Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any body else seeing messages where the subject is only b or bbb and the body is only b or bbb? Could this be a spammer checking for valid addresses? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread Kami Razvan
way to check for valid addresses.. Has anyone else seen this? Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B Any body else seeing messages where the subject is only b or bbb and the body is only b or bbb? Could this be a spammer checking for valid

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B Any body else seeing messages where the subject is only b or bbb and the body is only b or bbb? Could this be a spammer checking for valid addresses? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
On a related note, I see rushes where the spam has no body and the same header appears from multiple open relays all at the same time; I think it's broken spamware. You mean like this: (That is the entire D file.) ---

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
) -Original Message- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B On a related note, I see rushes where the spam has no body and the same header appears from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B Hmm, nope, but I have also seen broken headers like you provided, but never with so much misplaced stuff in the header; from what Scott has previously mentioned, I would guess that the way your sample message is broken

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-27 Thread Kami Razvan
: Thursday, November 27, 2003 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B Yes, the BODY ISBLANK has done well for me. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail

[Declude.JunkMail] SUBJECT ISBLANK

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Scott, I am ROFLOL at this: 11/17/2003 12:12:20 Q2ba00068020856ba Triggered ISBLANK filter BASICFILTER on THIS_STRING_SHOULD_NEVER_BE_IN_AN_EMAIL_OR_IT_WILL_BE_MARKED_AS_SPAM [weight-5]. Some times, you are just too funny. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SUBJECT ISBLANK

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, I am ROFLOL at this: 11/17/2003 12:12:20 Q2ba00068020856ba Triggered ISBLANK filter BASICFILTER on THIS_STRING_SHOULD_NEVER_BE_IN_AN_EMAIL_OR_IT_WILL_BE_MARKED_AS_SPAM [weight-5]. Some times, you are just too funny. :) Actually, that was designed for internal use, and wasn't meant to

[Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Regarding the special characters in the subject line. Would it not be easier if Declude could do filtering after it removes all special characters first. I see a couple of common behavior that could easily be done with a REMOVE call in the text for subject. 1: Multiple spaces

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Bill Landry
What about the use of replacement characters like V!@gr@, which I see a lot of? With your test, viagra becomes "Vgr". Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:01 AM Subject: [Declud

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Matthew Bramble
proven to be quite effective. Scott could also similarly create a test that would detect a number of instances of stripping out punctuation surrounded by A-Z within the body (or subject) like he does with the COMMENTS test (I don't think you should bother with the numbers because of FP's). Matt

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Kami Razvan
** the 2nd attempt.. the first one I sent earlier never got posted. --- I know exactly what you are talking about.. But.. this is not a solution for all .. all I am suggesting is instead of us adding all the characters .. this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Jose Gosende
Where can I find Junkmail's readme file? I need to block email with the usual bad words in the subject and body, but can't find documentation on how to do this. TIA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Friday

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
Where can I find Junkmail's readme file? The release notes are at http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm . The manual is at http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm . -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Gable
I'll muddle my way through humbly. ---Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:34 PM To: Mike Gable Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter Sandy, I think you're missing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing characters- subject

2003-11-07 Thread Jose Gosende
Thanks. Are any of these links accessible through the site? I couldn't find them. Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing

[Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Mike Gable
Hi. I've composed a simple but effective subject filter for non-alpha-num characters that are intended to obfuscate words and phrases. It is catching a lot more junk than before. My hold weight is 25 and delete is 35. Forgive me if this is an old idea. Here it is: SUBJECT 6 CONTAINS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
It is catching a lot more junk than before. Checked your FPs lately? SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS - I get countless legit e-mails with hyphens in the Subject. SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS [ SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS ] Mailing list e-mails very often use brackets in the Subject, so you're giving more weight

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Title: Message Scott, A good add-on test might be a count of punctuation characters in the subject. That would be very close to this suggestion but might be easier to use and require less processing. In particular the drug "member augmentation" folks are on a tear lately o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
) Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter Hi. I've composed a simple but effective subject filter for non-alpha-num characters that are intended to obfuscate words and phrases. It is catching a lot more junk than before. My hold weight is 25 and delete is 35. Forgive me

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Gable Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter It is catching a lot more junk than before. Checked your FPs lately? SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS - I get countless legit e-mails with hyphens in the Subject. SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS [ SUBJECT 2 CONTAINS ] Mailing list e-mails

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter Scott, A good add-on test might be a count of punctuation characters in the subject. That would be very close to this suggestion but might be easier to use and require less processing. In particular the drug member

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Mike Gable
Sandy, I think you're missing the point. My weighting system has enough slop in it to allow for some points to be given to legitimate senders. Even the Declude JunkMail list now gets 4 points for having [ and ] in the subject, but it still comes through fine. If we try to prevent all false

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Matthew Bramble
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:16 PM To: Mike Gable Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter It is catching a lot more junk than before. Checked your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Matthew Bramble
characters. On a subject search, that should be doable. Any volunteers for finding the 15 most popular letters? I'll be happy to code it up with a little help. BTW, spammers using the first type of word obfuscation are also quite likely to use other types, and fail tests like GIBBERISH, GIBBERISHSUB

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Non-alpha-numeric subject filter

2003-11-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Sandy, I think you're missing the point. I don't think so. A Subject with a pair of [square brackets] in it is alone, practically speaking, a 0% indicator of spam, unless your mail traffic is separately insured against such incidents (which I doubt it is). As such, it should

[Declude.JunkMail] SUBJECT action

2003-11-02 Thread Scot Desort
Is it normal for the SUBJECT action to be taken for every recipient in a message, even if only one recipient has that action defined in the .junkmail file? The manual states that this happens for the ATTACH action, but doesn't mention it for the SUBJECT action. Thanks, Scot --- [This E-mail

[Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread James James
Greetings all I have some users who are starting to get spam with nothing in the subject and nothing in the body, save a single link to a picture on the internet. Is there a test for nothing in subject? I already have the subjectchars test setup, but that only tests for subjects over a certian

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If you have JunkMail Pro, you can create a filter text file with a line like: SUBJECT 0 ISBLANK The weight, of course, is up to you. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line?

2003-10-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: James James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test for nothing in the subject line? Thanks Andrew. I do have JunkMail Pro and I just set this up, but I hate asking a list

[Declude.JunkMail] Encoded subject lines

2003-09-13 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
To continue the discussion on encoded subject lines, the ones I see as spam always have a short body and is always HTML like the following: (Without the extra spaces I through in there. html body cen te r !--pfuhja2jjk-- a href=http : //www . currency4.com /host/d efault.asp?I D=omni img

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Marc Catuogno
I'm not familiar with this test? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject Add the following tests and it get's even

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble
, a.k.a. SUBJECTSPACES, just simply counts the number of spaces in a subject line. Spammers often will do something like show a subject, then a bunch of spaces, and then some gibberish. It will also score on some very long subjects which are not common in real E-mail. The scoring is additive as higher

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? I'm seeing quite a few of these coming in, but they are getting held. I'm including a sample from my log, which is set to HIGH so that others can see what tests have been useful for me. An interesting point that came out of my following this thread is that I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Looking at my spamples I don't see any prefix letter: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?QnVzeSBhdCB3b3Jr?=? Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?RGlzY3JlZXQgT24gTGluZSBQaGFybWFjeSwgVmlhZ3Jh?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?RndkOiBUaA==?=e 24th o=?ISO-8859-1?b?ZiB0aGk=?=s month Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Here you go. Out of the 85 messages received in less than 3 days with this ISO encoded subject, 11 had the encoding in the middle of the line (see attachment). I think they were all caught due to the weights of other tests. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Dan Patnode [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble
I've been capturing this stuff and I have found the code in the middle of native language text, but only occasionally. Some examples: Subject: You never IM =?ISO-8859-1?B?bWUgYW55?=more Subject: This is=?ISO-8859-1?b?IHRoZSA1dGgg?=email=?ISO-8859-1?b?IEkgc2Vu?=t you Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b

Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
the test from running. Same goes for other languages. I just got my first false positive out of 200 catches. This was from Korea but written in English (still encoded though). There are two clues in the headers as to how to defeat the test: Subject: [22] =?euc-kr?B

Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Matthew Bramble
Either test grouping, or some way to limit the score of a filter that increments, or someway to negate the whole filter with a test inside of the filter. Something like: SUBJECTEXEMPTCONTAINS?b? That would keep your negation techniques from having an effect outside of the test

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather didn't) with this subject: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?= There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, disposable domain names

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather didn't) with this subject: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?= There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, disposable domain

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
subject filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect accuracy so far. A functional gibberish body filter though would have a reasonable number of false positives (was tagging buy.com links that were shown in displayable text for instance). I don't of course though expect Scott to rush

[Declude.JunkMail] [OT] - Subject: URGENT URGENT URGENT

2003-09-10 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Title: Message Anyone else getting messages such as this? I'm getting them delivered into a number or different e-mail accounts. Could this be the next thing thanks to SoBig? -Original Message-From: Aron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:45 AMSubject:

Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Doug McKee
there is, the higher the score). I could catch so much crap with those 40 or so two character gibberish strings, in fact I think it was properly tagging around 10% to 20% of all unique incoming messages today if not more. That gibberish subject filter is tagging over 5% by itself, and with perfect

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] - Subject: URGENT URGENT URGENT

2003-09-10 Thread Adrian Hauri
Title: Message This is just a virus hoax: http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=Got+You+Worm+Hoax Cheers Adrian From: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:03 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] - Subject

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [OT] - Subject: URGENT URGENT URGENT

2003-09-10 Thread Todd - Smart Mail
Title: Message http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/got.you.hoax.html Its a Hoax. Todd Hunter Progressive Systems - Original Message - From: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:03 PM Subject

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread R. Scott Perry
It pains me to suggest making your todo list longer but how about adding test grouping? Don't feel bad -- it was already in the todo list. :) -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
Doug McKee wrote: What is your test setup for the above string, please? SUBJECT 15 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? >From what I can tell, there's no valid reason to encode Latin-1 in the subject since that character set is supported by default in E-mail, so it's quite safe to fail on j

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
I did a scan of all uncaught spam from the last week, found all the one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list. All of these would have been seen by Matt's new config: Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Matthew Bramble
, found all the one's with Q, removed the QU's and ended up with this list. All of these would have been seen by Matt's new config: Subject: Block those unwanted Popups yqvqk Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid 9xP%oY5NzPG\q2G Subject: drive luxury cars and get paid L0z[7J4aYq

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Mike Leonard
Matthew Bramble wrote: Use a text filter and add something like: SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? to it. I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't catch it. The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text. I sent one to myself before I posted, just

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Matthew Bramble
Add www.spamchk.com Base64 encoded subject lines will be decoded before the keyword-check. Markus It's on my list of things to do. That would be the best of both worlds since this stuff always seems keyword rich. Right now I'm writing custom filters, and loving the results... Thanks

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Matthew Bramble
Mike, I'm using v1.75i4 right now, is it possible that you are using a version older than 1.75? I tested my setup about 10 times before I gave up on the SUBJECT filter and moved to using HEADERS? BTW, regardless of how you do it or how it works, this is a great filter. It's not that common

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Mike Leonard
tested my setup about 10 times before I gave up on the SUBJECT filter and moved to using HEADERS? BTW, regardless of how you do it or how it works, this is a great filter. It's not that common, but guaranteed to be spam (IMO) and 1/10th of the hits are things that would have otherwise gotten

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Foreign TLDs, was: Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread Matthew Bramble
Mike Leonard wrote: We got about 10 of these for V-pill over the weekend, that's why I set it up. I haven't seen any legitimate email get caught by this filter, but we don't normally get email from any non-English speaking countries (unless it's spam). Mike I've been meaning to share this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
at the end of the line (such as SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?instead of SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b?). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses

[Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Frederick Samarelli
How does a subject that shows this. =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?= Display this. Re:Cheapest Viagra Guaranteed --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
How does a subject that shows this. =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?= Display this. Re:Cheapest Viagra Guaranteed That's because the subject is encoded. To help support non-English languages, there was an RFC that allowed subjects and message bodies to be encoded

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Markus Gufler
How does a subject that shows this. =?ISO-8859-1?b?UmU6Q2hlYXBlc3QgVmlhZ3JhIEd1YXJhbnRlZWQ=?= The ?b? indicates that this subject line is Base64 encoded. Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Any suggestion on how to block these. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject How does a subject that shows this. =?ISO-8859-1?b

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? Assuming you don't ever get emails from European countries, Canada or other locations that use accented characters. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Charles Frolick
I believe the Outlook XP and 2003 mail config test uses the subject encoding as well on the test message. Had acustomer with bad pop settings leave several test on webmail and they looked like that. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-08 Thread Matthew Bramble
Use a text filter and add something like: SUBJECT 40 CONTAINS =?ISO-8859-1?b? to it. I tried this all the way down to ust ?b? and a SUBJECT filter didn't catch it. The SUBJECT filter also doesn't catch the decoded text. I found though that if you use the HEADERS filter

[Declude.JunkMail] Subject Contains test

2003-07-01 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Hello, I was wondering if there was a subject contains type of test. E.g. A message subject line contains Viagra, kinky, xxx, sex, etc. it will fail the tests. Is there something like this already? Thanks.. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Contains test

2003-07-01 Thread Smart Business Lists
Jeff, Tuesday, July 1, 2003 you wrote: JMH I was wondering if there was a subject contains type of test. JMH E.g. A message subject line contains Viagra, kinky, xxx, sex, etc. it will JMH fail the tests. JMH Is there something like this already? Thanks.. That is filtering

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Contains test

2003-07-01 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Ahh, ok.. Thanks.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smart Business Lists Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:29 AM To: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Contains test Jeff, Tuesday, July 1, 2003 you wrote: JMH I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist subject?

2003-06-24 Thread jcochran
). But the list messages all arrive with the list name in the subject line similar to [Declude.JunkMail]. I'd like to bypass JunkMail tests on these messages, is there a method I haven't figured out yet to bypass based on a match in the SUBJECT? Or is there a better method? The latest beta version

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist subject?

2003-06-24 Thread jcochran
I didn't think of that solution, thanks. Though I may have an issue from one of the mailing lists, since we HOLD from that domain, but it may work on other issues I have. Jeff Also, if you have the PRO version, you can set up a filter file and then filter on SUBJECT -50 CONTAINS

[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist subject?

2003-06-20 Thread jcochran
). But the list messages all arrive with the list name in the subject line similar to [Declude.JunkMail]. I'd like to bypass JunkMail tests on these messages, is there a method I haven't figured out yet to bypass based on a match in the SUBJECT? Or is there a better method? Thanks, Jeff --- [This E

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist subject?

2003-06-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
). But the list messages all arrive with the list name in the subject line similar to [Declude.JunkMail]. I'd like to bypass JunkMail tests on these messages, is there a method I haven't figured out yet to bypass based on a match in the SUBJECT? Or is there a better method? The latest beta version will let you

[Declude.JunkMail] DSN In The Subject?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Can someone tell me what it means, in the context of this discussion list, when someone puts DSN in the subject? Thanks, Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] This E-mail is scanned and free from viruses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN In The Subject?

2003-06-09 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Scott, Can someone tell me what it means, in the context of this discussion list, when someone puts DSN in the subject? That normally means that the E-mail failed the DSN test (which is run by http://www.rfc-ignorant.org ). It usually means that the mailserver that sent the E-mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN In The Subject?

2003-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Can someone tell me what it means, in the context of this discussion list, when someone puts DSN in the subject? That normally means that the E-mail failed the DSN test (which is run by http://www.rfc-ignorant.org ). It usually means that the mailserver that sent the E-mail is running

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Star
of not content based tests that fail this message. This should be enough to block it. Our free tool SPAMCHK makes a lot of content based tests. I do not reccomend to filter this spam by the subject line he hit me. Doing this ater some months you will have a long filter list containing numerous

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject

2003-03-10 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi Dan, Yes, as I know the pro version is able to filter keywords in the subject-line. We've added a lot of keywords and phrases to our subjectline filter in SPAMCHK, but I think filtering for single special characters or also for a certain number of special characters will create more fp's

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject

2003-03-10 Thread John Tolmachoff
Those are actually encrypted subject lines. Example: When you send an Outlook Test mail, the subject line is Microsoft Outlook Test Message. However, when Declude sees it, it looks like =?utf-8?B?TWljcm9zb2Z0IE91dGxvb2sgVGVzdCBNZXNzYWdl?= John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject

2003-03-10 Thread Dan Star
Here is an example subject: (±¤°í)¹éÀü¹é½ÂÁÖ°¡Â÷Æ®½ÇÀüÀÓ»óÁý¹«·á Dan Markus Gufler wrote: Hi Dan, Yes, as I know the pro version is able to filter keywords in the subject-line. We've added a lot of keywords and phrases to our subjectline filter in SPAMCHK, but I think filtering

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject

2003-03-10 Thread John Tolmachoff
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Star Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Removing mails by the subject Here is an example subject: (±¤°í)¹éÀü¹é½ÂÁÖ°¡Â÷Æ®½ÇÀüÀÓ»óÁý¹«·á Dan Markus Gufler wrote: Hi Dan, Yes, as I know the pro

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