RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I don't want to knock Alligate, it has some nice functionality, especially when used without Declude (auto whitelisting and digest notification), and it does what it says, but it has a relatively high false positive rate in the default configuration and therefore it can't be scored higher

RE : [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-21 Thread mail-list
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions? John, I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely

RE: RE : [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Message sniffer is not so bad as I tested it but have a big problem with News letter it has a bif False positive rate with them. On the home page for MessageSniffer you'll find a Help (QA) section which is worth your time to read if it's worth your time to implement. Submit false positives to:

RE: RE : [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-21 Thread Pete (Madscientist)
part de |Matthew Bramble Envoyé : jeudi 21 août 2003 03:32 À : |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] |Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions? | | |John, | |I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from |back in June and it was very helpful in understanding

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Grosshandler
We use both. Between them, plus the Declude tests, our false positive level is very, very low. Our scoring is such that if an e-mail triggers both Sniffer and Alligate, we treat as spam. If it triggers both, and has other characteristics of spam, its score is high enough that it gets deleted

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Keith Johnson
Rob, If you don't mind sharing, what config settings do you use for Alligate.. Keith -Original Message- From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
As one of the earlier testers and helped develop the variable scale of Alligate, I can understand your position. I have a client that gets a lot of e-mail from the Far East and a lot of bcc broadcasts and lists. Many of these show elements of spam, but are legit. That is what makes it hard. There

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Glad to. By the way, we also use Autowhite (I hate the thought of missing any mail). Also, our Declude config is near-stock, we hold on 20, delete on 30. #Alligate for IMail CONFIGURATION FILE (MINIMUM CONFIGURATION) #PLEASE SEE THE CONFIGURATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR MORE OPTIONS #GENERAL NOTES #

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
I'd also like to share my configuration. We have about 50 E-mail domains with about 250 users, with many addresses listed in who-is records and on Web sites, along with nobody alias redirection for all domains. This results in a lot of garbage coming our way. We are definitely capturing

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Matthew Bramble
John, I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely before I start that phase though, looking for false positives. I've turned that test down

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread Pete McNeil
At 10:31 PM 8/20/2003 -0400, you wrote: snip I don't want to knock Alligate, it has some nice functionality, especially when used without Declude (auto whitelisting and digest notification), and it does what it says, but it has a relatively high false positive rate in the default

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-20 Thread brian
Hi Matt, I guess I'll chime in here... On 08/20/03 10:31pm you wrote... I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely before I start that phase