Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-29 Thread Dan Allen
To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto John, The specification has the notion of a class being a managed bean, as laid out in chapter 3 of the spec. Using @Unmanaged would complement

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-29 Thread José Rodolfo Freitas
+1 @veto On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:55, Marius Bogoevici marius.bogoev...@gmail.comwrote: I suggested @Unmanaged (or even @NotManaged, or anything that refers to class as a managed bean in the spirit of 3.1.1).

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-29 Thread Gerhard Petracek
the easiest way in this case is a formal vote about @Veto vs @Exclude vs @Unmanaged/@NotManaged regards, gerhard 2011/12/30 Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:55, Marius Bogoevici marius.bogoev...@gmail.comwrote: I suggested @Unmanaged (or even @NotManaged, or

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Struberg
- From: Marius Bogoevici marius.bogoev...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto John, The specification has the notion of a class being a managed bean, as laid out in chapter 3

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-28 Thread Marius Bogoevici
of a DeltaSpike migration. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Marius Bogoevici marius.bogoev...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto John, The specification has

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Mark Struberg
/api/src/main/java/javax/enterprise/inject/Veto.java - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto it looks like @Exclude

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Cody Lerum
/479e144ccfa0235faf5662355d02a7fe5f6725f6/api/src/main/java/javax/enterprise/inject/Veto.java - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Gerhard Petracek
about @Exclude? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread John D. Ament
: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs @Skip and not about the other

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-27 Thread Gerhard Petracek
21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-26 Thread Gerhard Petracek
? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-24 Thread Christian Kaltepoth
: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs @Skip and not about the other alternatives: +1 for @Skip

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-24 Thread Pete Muir
[mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
Veto is rationally the most appropriate since it directly translates to calling ProcessAnnotatedType#veto() However, I'd like to offer one other alternative: @Skip While veto describes what the extension is doing internally, skip is how the developer perceives the result of the action. The

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs @Skip and not about the other alternatives: +1 for @Skip regards, gerhard

AW: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Arne Limburg
What about @Exclude? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-14 Thread Jason Porter
As per [1] we're discussing the top features from both CODI (core) and Solder. This issue is for @Veto [2] from Solder. Basic idea: Provide an easy way for application developers to veto beans in their application. Of course users could create their own Extension and veto that way, this does all

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-14 Thread Jason Porter
Sorry the correct abstract class is https://github.com/seam/solder/blob/develop/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/solder/beanManager/BeanManagerAware.javaYou'll have to follow the code around to get all of what it does. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 13:05, Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com wrote: As per

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-14 Thread Jason Porter
Bah, wrong thread sorry, disregard. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 13:28, Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry the correct abstract class is https://github.com/seam/solder/blob/develop/api/src/main/java/org/jboss/solder/beanManager/BeanManagerAware.javaYou'll have to follow the code

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-14 Thread Jason Porter
: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:05 PM Subject: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto As per [1] we're discussing the top features from both CODI (core) and Solder. This issue is for @Veto [2] from Solder. Basic idea: Provide an easy way for application

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-14 Thread Martin Kouba
, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto we discussed such a feature for codi and didn't add it because of @Typed() @jason: imo @Veto is the wrong name (if there is no real veto) regards, gerhard 2011/12/14 Jason Porterlightguard...@gmail.com Sort of, it doesn't really