Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 01/29/2013 05:49 PM, Thibaut Brandscheid wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Jay Lozier > wrote: In general I agree that some of the buttons are used less frequently and that many users may not realize what they do. Parallel to your ideas is are ther

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: > In general I agree that some of the buttons are used less frequently and > that many users may not realize what they do. Parallel to your ideas is are > there buttons that should be displayed that currently are not displayed? I don't think rig

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 29/01/2013 23:00, Mirek M. wrote: > Hi Sophie, > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Sophie Gautier > wrote: > >> Hum, changing the proposal when the voting has already begun is not the >> the best... Should I really ask members to make a full vote again >> including this proposal or do we handle

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
Hi Astron Thanks for your detailed answer. I can't promise to do the data analysis in the wiki but will have a look at it. LO is a huge project and I assume that it's sometimes complicated to reach consensus on UI changes. People like what they already know... an old problem for all lateral thinke

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Sophie Gautier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, On 29/01/2013 21:39, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: > Because he don't speak english^^ Then I think they should at least > read our design principles first to vote. Because they are contributors to the project: l10n, QA, documentation, support, marketi

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Sophie, On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hum, changing the proposal when the voting has already begun is not the > the best... Should I really ask members to make a full vote again > including this proposal or do we handle it differently? > I realize that a new proposa

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Greindl
I think if enough people are paticipating in the vote for the new proposal, be it by up- or down-voting, it shouldn't really be any problem, or? Just my opinion, Paul On 29/01/13 22:42, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Mirek, > On 29/01/2013 22:25, Mirek M. wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> Maxim created anot

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Mirek, On 29/01/2013 22:25, Mirek M. wrote: > Hi everyone, > Maxim created another proposal based on the feedback on his first: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding#Proposal_by_Maxim_Dar.C3.A1k > . > I'm adding it to the poll, so please, if you've voted, vote on

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, The vote moved to Google Docs, please take a look at the "4.0 branding - current summarize" thread. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: htt

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, Maxim created another proposal based on the feedback on his first: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/4.0_Branding#Proposal_by_Maxim_Dar.C3.A1k . I'm adding it to the poll, so please, if you've voted, vote on this proposal as well. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-m

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Jay Lozier
On 01/29/2013 12:18 PM, Thibaut Brandscheid wrote: Hi all I had some free time today and thought I could contribute something to LO. The following is an analysis of LibreOffice Writer with the aim to point to UI and UX problems, and propose solutions. Here is the blank screen shot I used for th

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Italo Vignoli
Because they are as concerned as you are about the future of LibreOffice, and being good community contributors they have the right to express their opinion. The decision is up to the design team, but it is important to gather the opinion of the community in order to get the necessary consensus. Th

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Because he don't speak english^^ Then I think they should at least read our design principles first to vote. Kévin Le mar. 29 janv. 2013 21:37:33 CET, Samuel Mehrbrodt a écrit : > Why should someone not on the Design list vote for a Design issue? > > Am 29.01.2013 21:14, schrieb Sophie Gautier:

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Why should someone not on the Design list vote for a Design issue? Am 29.01.2013 21:14, schrieb Sophie Gautier: Hi all, I didn't yet give feedback, but I you want to follow the vote on the FR list, here is the thread : http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Fwd-libreoffice-design-4-0-Branding-pol

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, I didn't yet give feedback, but I you want to follow the vote on the FR list, here is the thread : http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Fwd-libreoffice-design-4-0-Branding-poll-td4032787.html#a4032851 I will give a summary before the deadline. Kind regards Sophie On 29/01/2013 21:10, Hilla

[libreoffice-design] 4.0 branding - current summarize

2013-01-29 Thread Hillar Liiv
Hi, I put together current votes for 4.0 branding. (it's very unofficial format) I hope people will look for their votes and correct my mistakes. Kévin PEIGNOT please upload your votes again didn't quite well understand and not included on spreadsheets. Feel free to add your votes, everyone can e

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Maximi89
I agree, I have added my vote to the first email and then all follow the email with lot of votes, don`t know if I were wrong or it was like expected. 2013/1/29 Paul Greindl > Ähh I think it was intended to add the votes to the last mail, but then > people stopped doing so, so now I think it's b

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Maximi89
As a user, one option who left and it`s commonly used is the page numeration, and by default it should be disabled in the first page because it`s the frontpage... and an easy way to disable numeration or activate it for page or pair and odd pages. Just my opinion, that is fraquently asked by the u

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Greindl
Ähh I think it was intended to add the votes to the last mail, but then people stopped doing so, so now I think it's best to just send your vote and put everything in place later. And yes, I completely agree: this is a little chaotic and the vote should be redone with a voting system! Paul On 2

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Greindl
Hi all, my vote: Branding from version 3.6: -1 Proposal by Aexyn.com: -1 "V1" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V2" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V3" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "GIn-V1" by k-j: -1 "GIn-V2" by k-j: -1 "Minimal" by Medieval: 1 "ages" by Medieval: 1 Proposal by Pedro: -1 "C

Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Stefan Knorr (Astron)
Hi Thibaut, this all looks really, really nice. I haven't read everything yet, but I wanted to comment on some things at least: > 1. Needed UI elements > = [...] > Image: http://ubuntuone.com/7TZkH1e7vo88B637NEIjEc Well, the interesting thing is that we actually have data about h

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi, I'm not sure how the voting system is supposed to work. I took the last email, and added my votes to that. Others took the plain list from the first mail and added their votes to that. What is the right way? Maybe an online voting system would help? Samuel Am 29.01.2013 08:49, schrieb k

Re: [libreoffice-design] Roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hi HIllar ! I must say a roadmap is a good thing but. Then, for me, this page is sort of a roadmap : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards . Maybe it's just not enought clear ? I'm not very active because I'm very active on others fronts theses days, but I went on this page an

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Pawel Konefal
Hi, Branding from version 3.6: 0 Proposal by Aexyn.com: -1 "V1" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V2" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V3" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "GIn-V1" by k-j: -1 "GIn-V2" by k-j: -1 "Minimal" by Medieval: 0 "ages" by Medieval: 1 Proposal by Pedro: -1 "Clear_Full_Offi

[libreoffice-design] Roadmap

2013-01-29 Thread Hillar Liiv
Hi, Isn't it great if we had something called like roadmap? This is great way to show people what we are plannin, what we are working and what are our goals in future. What is roadmap? Roadmap is basicly a list where we hold our workitems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_roadmap (not best

[libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis

2013-01-29 Thread Thibaut Brandscheid
Hi all I had some free time today and thought I could contribute something to LO. The following is an analysis of LibreOffice Writer with the aim to point to UI and UX problems, and propose solutions. Here is the blank screen shot I used for the analysis: http://ubuntuone.com/1T26evMLE0Q1Sfvbc6Lc

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone, Branding from version 3.6: 0 Proposal by Aexyn.com: -1 "V1" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V2" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "V3" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -1 "GIn-V1" by k-j: -1 "GIn-V2" by k-j: -1 "Minimal" by Medieval: 1 "ages" by Medieval: 1 Proposal by Pedro: -1 "Cl

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Michel Renon
Le 29/01/2013 15:33, Michel Renon a écrit : Le 29/01/2013 13:39, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit : Agree, for now, I guess it would be good if we all voted like Adolfo above. Else, we'll just stumble over lots of calculation errors (people posting at the same time etc.). (Imho, a saner mechanism wou

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Michel Renon
Le 29/01/2013 13:39, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit : Agree, for now, I guess it would be good if we all voted like Adolfo above. Else, we'll just stumble over lots of calculation errors (people posting at the same time etc.). (Imho, a saner mechanism would have been to ask for everyone's top three

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, please count my votes: Branding from version 3.6: 0 Proposal by Aexyn.com: 0 "V1" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: 0 "V2" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: 0 "V3" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: 0 "GIn-V1" by k-j: 1 "GIn-V2" by k-j: 0 "Minimal" by Medieval: 0 "ages" by Medieval: 0 Proposal by Pedro: 0

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
> Agree, for now, I guess it would be good if we all voted like Adolfo > above. Else, we'll just stumble over lots of calculation errors (people > posting at the same time etc.). > (Imho, a saner mechanism would have been to ask for everyone's top three > choices and give 3, 2, 1 points in order, r

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi all, +1: Mateus.m.luna "Clear_Full_Pref" [1] +1: Maxim Darák (almost perfect) +1: Proposal by Alexander Wilms (at the right of the new SVG) [2] -1: "V2" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila -1: "V3" by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila -1: Proposal by Pedro -1: Proposal by H.Sparks On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 03:

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Klaus-Jürgen, On 29/01/2013 11:13, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: > Hi Mirek, > Am 29.01.2013 00:32, schrieb Mirek M.: >> Because of disagreements over the 4.0 branding, we're setting up a >> poll to >> help us reach a solution. > > Maybe I loose it, but where can the vote be made? Here on ml

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Valentin
-1 for ... Aexyn.com Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila k-j Pedro Mateus.m.luna H.Sparks G Sparks 0 for ... Alexander Wilms +1 for ... Maxim Darák Medieval (the light one) 2013/1/29 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol > Hi Mirek, > Am 29.01.2013 00:32, schrieb Mirek M.: > >> Because of disagreements over the 4.

Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Hi Mirek, Am 29.01.2013 00:32, schrieb Mirek M.: Because of disagreements over the 4.0 branding, we're setting up a poll to help us reach a solution. Maybe I loose it, but where can the vote be made? Here on ml as I supposed by adding my vote to the list or somewhere else? It seems that some

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
Honestly, wth with this voting system? :) +1: Mateus.m.luna "Clear_Full_Official" (make colors more vivid, please) +1: G Sparks (I like the typographic motif as well, typeface choice could be improved) +1: Maxim Darák (almost perfect) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.lib

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
I didn't Vote 3 or -3 I downvoted 1 which made -3 when added to -2 sorry ! 2013/1/29 Sveinn í Felli > Hi, > > ;-) > > +1: Mateus.m.luna "Clear_Green_Official" (the green could be darker) > +1: "Minimal" by Medieval* (the green could be darker) > +1: "ages" by Medieval* (the green could be dark

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

2013-01-29 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Hi, ;-) +1: Mateus.m.luna "Clear_Green_Official" (the green could be darker) +1: "Minimal" by Medieval* (the green could be darker) +1: "ages" by Medieval* (the green could be darker) +1: Alexander Wilms (both greens top-right in the new SVG) +1: G Sparks (I like the typographic motif) -1: A