Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-16 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Ricardo, all! Ricardo, thanks for summarizing the proposals. Some of them have real EasyHack quality, I think. I added some behavioral description to 36308 (the first one). Since I don't know better (as well), I also forward your mail to the developer list. Maybe they can suggest how to handle

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-16 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/13 RGB ES : > I made a quick draft summarizing the discussion on this thread: > https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator/navigator-en.odt?attredirects=0&d=1 > I reduced everything to three proposals: > - Change the tree view behaviour > - Reorganizing the way on which

Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-13 Thread roman_sharp
I dare to say my concern and use case. I'm working with OpenOffice for a few years with two types of documents: test specifications and test protocols. The first is a long-long-long document of hierarchical structure. In my current spec there are 27 chapters of test case list and from 3 to 13 te

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-12 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/11 Christoph Noack : > Ricardo, may I ask you to do me a favor? Could you please summarize the > things we've discussed so far - being usability issues - as an Easy Hack > (show headings drop-down, double-click behavior)? I currently really > lack the time to do so :-( The current Easy Hacks

Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-12 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi Greg, currently the project is not in the state to have a common understanding of who our users are and what they are supposed to do with the product(s) - and esp. the other way round: who are not our users and what are they not supposed to do with our product (Same with other important arte

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-12 Thread Greg
Hi Steve, I'm not clear what you mean. I think it's incontrovertably true in all circumstances that understanding what users require (and in this case, using use cases as an expression of those requirements) should always precede design and implementation - That IS good management! Otherwise, t

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-11 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/11 Christoph Noack : > Ricardo, may I ask you to do me a favor? Could you please summarize the > things we've discussed so far - being usability issues - as an Easy Hack > (show headings drop-down, double-click behavior)? I currently really > lack the time to do so :-( The current Easy Hacks

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-11 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Ricardo, all! Hey, you seem to evolve to Mr. Navigator ... which is a great thing! Am Sonntag, den 10.04.2011, 01:48 +0200 schrieb RGB ES: > There is a potential usability problem with the navigator on LibO on > its current form. Suppose you have four levels of headings and you are > now on a

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-11 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi Greg. I think what you describe is what is needed to drive LO from the enthusiasts arena to main stream adoption. But as the enthusiasts are doing all the work, it requires good management or they will no longer be enthusiastic. steve On 12/04/11 08:48, Greg wrote: > Without wishing to rain on

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-11 Thread Greg
Without wishing to rain on anyone's parade or do unsavoury things to campfires, I think there's been a lot of great design thought here in isolation of a good, hard, implementation agnostic think about enumerating the real use cases. When I say use cases, I don't mean anything to do with how t

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-04-09 Thread RGB ES
There is a potential usability problem with the navigator on LibO on its current form. Suppose you have four levels of headings and you are now on a level, say, three (a sub-subsection). Now, you want to go for a moment to the top level for this part (the Chapter) and double click on the correspond

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-20 Thread RGB ES
I like your mok-up very much! My proposal was a starting point, and you took it to a higher level! Thanks! Yesterday came to my mind another idea about the navigator, this time a new feature. Right now, you can drag-n-drop elements from the navigator to the document in order to create copies or to

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-20 Thread Jochen
Hi, Am 19.03.2011 10:06, schrieb RGB ES: > A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: > https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator > What do you think? I got your request/idea from the german discuss-ml. There I have disussed an similar problem with n

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-20 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all! Ricardo, cool that you bring fresh ideas ... maybe we can turn some of them in EasyHacks ideas - that would be great! Am Samstag, den 19.03.2011, 19:15 +0100 schrieb RGB ES: > 2011/3/19 Irmhild Rogalla : > > good idea. > > I know and use the navigator, because I used go-OO for a long time

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-19 Thread planas
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 10:06 +0100, RGB ES wrote: > A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: > https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator > What do you think? > Cheers > Ricardo > I think it is a good idea; I like giving users more granularity and vi

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-19 Thread RGB ES
2011/3/19 Irmhild Rogalla : > good idea. > I know and use the navigator, because I used go-OO for a long time, it's > very useful. > I like your improvement, but for me it seems to be better, if the levels > have the same (small) font size. Because my experience is, that in most > times, I used the

Re: [libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-19 Thread Irmhild Rogalla
Hi, Am 19.03.2011 10:06, schrieb RGB ES: A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator What do you think? good idea. I know and use the navigator, because I used go-OO for a long time, it's very useful. I like

[libreoffice-design] About the Navigator

2011-03-19 Thread RGB ES
A few ideas about how to improve the already wonderful Navigator: https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/navigator What do you think? Cheers Ricardo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ ***