Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Paulo José
I like very much the idea... Maybe we could do something more "artistic" but still neutral for the background... trying to avoid the "Glass look" of MS Office, of course. I think we should be absolutely creative on changing the application background! :-D It could be a good "visual" differentia

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Nik, Ricardo, all! Am Montag, den 07.03.2011, 03:45 +1100 schrieb Nik: > Hi Ricardo, all, > > On 3/7/2011 2:41 AM, RGB ES wrote: > > Agree: I prefer no shadow at all, specially if it means more system > > resourced used to no real usability gain. [...] > Must be a subjective thing then. > On

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Nik
Hi Ricardo, all, On 3/7/2011 2:41 AM, RGB ES wrote: Agree: I prefer no shadow at all, specially if it means more system resourced used to no real usability gain. Shadows make sense only when you need to visually separate between stacked elements on a multi element UI like a desktop, but LibO UI

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:15:54 -0500, Rob Cummings a écrit : > First, as an element by itself, I like the four shadow borders, but I > can't help but wonder how it fits in with any plan or vision for the > future of the UI. > > Also, I don't understand how a shadow border is any trickier when > zoo

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread RGB ES
Agree: I prefer no shadow at all, specially if it means more system resourced used to no real usability gain. Shadows make sense only when you need to visually separate between stacked elements on a multi element UI like a desktop, but LibO UI is *single* document. And even if multiple document UI

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Rob Cummings
First, as an element by itself, I like the four shadow borders, but I can't help but wonder how it fits in with any plan or vision for the future of the UI. Also, I don't understand how a shadow border is any trickier when zoomed. The scale of the shadow (and line width) don't need to change with

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Rick Hansson
Hi all, I don't see any reason for having borders or shades at all. A plain background is fine. Keep it simple. I made a quick poll among friends and they all have different ideas, so this would be great if it could be optional. Also, since many like gradient backgrounds, why not make that optiona

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:37:55 +, Andrew a écrit : > On 05/03/11 21:47, Sébastien Le Ray wrote: > > Le Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:56:45 +, > > Daniel Merker a écrit : > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is what I meant. The default of LibreOffice should be done > >> like this. > >> > > > > Hi, > > > >

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-06 Thread Andrew
On 05/03/11 21:47, Sébastien Le Ray wrote: > Le Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:56:45 +, > Daniel Merker a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> This is what I meant. The default of LibreOffice should be done like >> this. >> > > Hi, > > So you just want to change default values for apps, that's it? > > I've he > I

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-05 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:56:45 +, Daniel Merker a écrit : > Hi, > > This is what I meant. The default of LibreOffice should be done like > this. > Hi, So you just want to change default values for apps, that's it? I've he -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@libreoffice.org

RE: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-05 Thread Daniel Merker
Hi, This is what I meant. The default of LibreOffice should be done like this. From: Andrew [rugby...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:59 PM To: design@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-05 Thread Andrew
On 05/03/11 11:44, Sébastien Le Ray wrote: > Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:36:19 +, > Daniel Merker a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> Just a thought. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the background be >> the primary color of that application. For example, the Writer would >> have a blue tinted background w

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-05 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:36:19 +, Daniel Merker a écrit : > Hi, > > Just a thought. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the background be > the primary color of that application. For example, the Writer would > have a blue tinted background with a shadow (I like the shadow on all > sides), and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-05 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:09:44 +0200, Hillar Liiv a écrit : > Hi, > > I have made some mockup to show how different shadows look alike: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Docshadows.png > Which looks best? Hi I definitely don't like the "no blur" shadows... I cannot tell which one from 4 b

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Hillar Liiv
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - > Improve default page layout > > Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500, > Jaron Kuppers a écrit : > > > Hi all, > > > > I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion. > > >

RE: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Daniel Merker
t: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500, Jaron Kuppers a écrit : > Hi all, > > I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion. > > I would like to instead propose a different appro

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500, Jaron Kuppers a écrit : > Hi all, > > I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion. > > I would like to instead propose a different approach but perhaps from > a coding perspective it would not be an "easy hack." There was > discussion over the years

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Jaron Kuppers
Hi all, I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion. I would like to instead propose a different approach but perhaps from a coding perspective it would not be an "easy hack." There was discussion over the years on the OOo list about changing the background from the dull gray to someth

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Andrew
On 04/03/11 07:42, Sébastien Le Ray wrote: > Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:35:11 +0100, > Christoph Noack a écrit : > >> Hi Sébastien, hi all! >> > > Hi > >> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Sébastien Le Ray: >>> Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:59:19 +, >>> Michael Meeks a écrit : >>> >

[libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

2011-03-04 Thread Sébastien Le Ray
Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:35:11 +0100, Christoph Noack a écrit : > Hi Sébastien, hi all! > Hi > Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Sébastien Le Ray: > > Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:59:19 +, > > Michael Meeks a écrit : > > [...] > > Although I didn't see it yet, thanks for your w