Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-17 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
You can use seamonkey instead. I understand why you are upset. I yelled and yelled long before ubuntu hardy was released, but no one fucking listened to me. I told them that this bug would be the bane of the lts release. It is absolutely ridiculous to base network connectivity on a tool that do

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-13 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
No, my addon works in firefox 3.0 for sure :-). I have tested it and additionally others on this thread have said it works as well. It does not merely modify the check mark! It sets various internal firefox variable states to disable the offline mode. If it hasn't worked for you, then I am unsur

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-07 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 01:00:27PM -, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > BEST POSSIBLE WORKAROUND by my ridiculous addon: > http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/code/disable.offline.mode/disable.offline.mode.html > > Just install the Firefox extension I developed and you will never see > the "Offli

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-06 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
BEST POSSIBLE WORKAROUND by my ridiculous addon: http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/code/disable.offline.mode/disable.offline.mode.html Just install the Firefox extension I developed and you will never see the "Offline Mode" problem again. Email me if you have any problems with this XPI. Enjoy...

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-05 Thread Henry Wertz
---^ I second Jonathan Blow's idea.. having apps behave differently if they think they are online or not is just not "UNIXey". IMHO, they should do what they are told, and just find out they have "no route to host" if there in fact isn't one. -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect pr

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-04 Thread Jonathan Blow
What exactly is the point of Offline Mode in the first place? Is it worth all the trouble it is causing? Maybe we should file "Existence of Offline Mode" as a bug. -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. ht

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-01 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
Another solution might be to write a firefox addon to always disable offline mode at startup. Notice that firefox already does this when you are asked if you would like to upgrade to a new addon revision. It is quite ridiculous that we must resort to fixing this issue via a custom firefox addon.

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-07-01 Thread ichudov
I have a solution that I think is as near perfect as it gets. It is very simple. The problem: I need NetworkManager for connecting my laptop to wifi and ethernet. However, it messes me up when I am on PPP. The solution: kill Network Manager before running pppd and revive it after, e.g.: #!/bin/s

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Gatewood
I can also confirm this problem with Firefox 3. I had to downgrade my uncle's computer to Firefox 2. He uses dialup and never had any problem before. Firefox 3 always starting offline was really confusing him. I hope this gets fixed soon. It is really tough for folks who have to use a modem anyway

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-30 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:25:30PM -, Simone Tolotti wrote: > @Alexander: > I'm glad to see that ~network-manager PPA was updated. > At the time I've added dalbers' ppa to my sources.list, ~network-manager PPA > was stuck at svn20080121. > Hope you'll keep it updated in the future. Thanks. >

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-30 Thread Simone Tolotti
@Alexander: I'm glad to see that ~network-manager PPA was updated. At the time I've added dalbers' ppa to my sources.list, ~network-manager PPA was stuck at svn20080121. Hope you'll keep it updated in the future. Thanks. -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-30 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 06:05:34PM -, Simone Tolotti wrote: > If you want to try nm-0.7 you could add dalbers' ppa following this guide: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797059 > Remember: if you use that package you have to take care on your own that you get the real NM 0.7 once it

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-29 Thread Jonathan Blow
Confirmed, Henry's fix works for me. -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which i

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-29 Thread Jonathan Blow
I also want to point out that what's in config files should be irrelevant. Why is Firefox checking network config files? It should just check the actual network. -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. htt

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-29 Thread Jonathan Blow
Also having this problem. Ubuntu 8.04, FIrefox 3. Using an EVDO modem over ppp. Only one login session. I am about to try Henry's fix (blocking Firefox from performing the query) but I wanted to post first before I have to close all my browser windows. This is absolutely a bug in Firefox, rega

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-27 Thread Peter
Thanks Simone but just before I read your fix I managed to get my system working, after and lot of googling and fiddling. It was dead simple once I found out what to do (but aren't most things, once figured out?) I tinkered with /etc/network/interfaces my original was like this auto lo iface lo i

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-27 Thread Simone Tolotti
If you want to try nm-0.7 you could add dalbers' ppa following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797059 Working great here! -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchpad.

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-27 Thread Simone Tolotti
If you want to try nm-0.7 you should add dalbers' ppa following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797059 Working great for me! -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager. https://bugs.launchp

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-27 Thread Peter
oops! brain not switched on today - re comment above, I got my pop3 and smtp back to front. just to put is straight I can send via smtp but not collect via pop3 (kmail thinks it can't see the pop3 server). Interestingly, today I found out how to add ppp to my interfaces file and now I can connec

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-27 Thread Peter
Well I have just upgraded to kubuntu Hardy which has the fully fledged firefox3 packages. FF3 starts in offline mode for me when connected via a speedtouch usb modem. I connect to it using pon/poff as NM does not recognize any modem is plugged in. Habitually I have always closed the NM applet be

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-26 Thread Henry Wertz
>Do you have more than one login session running when you see this >issue? Nope.. just one session. Without my kludge, It's just like what Daniel Newman etc. have described where the CDMA aircard is a PPP link, and NetworkManager0.6x apparently doesn't track PPP state. If I use wifi, or ethern

Re: [Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 08:54:27AM -, Henry Wertz wrote: > I've found a kludgy "fix" for this (that doesn't just involve > removing nm, since it's wireless and wired handling are nice). In my > case, I have a Inspiron 2200 with wifi set via ndiswrapper (which works > fine) and an aircard

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-21 Thread Henry Wertz
I've found a kludgy "fix" for this (that doesn't just involve removing nm, since it's wireless and wired handling are nice). In my case, I have a Inspiron 2200 with wifi set via ndiswrapper (which works fine) and an aircard (Verizon PC5740) which worked except for the "Offline mode" problem.

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-20 Thread mistrynitesh
I installed Wicd as mentioned earlier in this report by PearZoo which automatically removed network manager and its gnome front-end... and now all the apps are working fine -- [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network man

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-20 Thread forza
I also have installed the Opera 9.5 browser and it connects without any problem. Firefox 3 is a different story. I have to got to: File -> Work offline to get online yet Opera 9.5 goes online with no problems whatsoever. It is not as fast as firefox 3, though. Opera for 32 bit (k)ubuntu: http://w

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-19 Thread mistrynitesh
Updated to the final release of Firefox 3 from Synaptic. Still the problem persists. Also the Network manager shows "No network connection" even when I am typing this online. It used to be so even at the time of Gutsy, but FF2 didn't bother me. The problem also shows up in Pidgin. Hope anyone does

[Bug 191889] Re: [MASTER] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager.

2008-06-15 Thread Bipin Thite
Same issue is here also. I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) with Firefox-3.0b5. I connect to the internet via dial-up mobile-phone-modem and with gprs subscription. Whenever I launch Firefox it always starts in Offline mode, and it doesn't matter whether I'm connected to the internet or not, it