xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread regatta
Hi I know many people will not like me :) , but this just a question please don´t hate me :) is there any plan to drop xscreensaver or at less do a heavy change on it (the ugly lock login didn´t change since I think gnome 2 or even before and always you have to reboot your machine if you lock

Re: xsltwin32config.h and jhbuild

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Why can't the necessary file be generated by Windows users? because configure doesn't run for people using standard Windows tools. Daniel, can you be a bit more specific ? What exactly does not allow people to run configure under Windows ? Lots of projects build fine under windows

Re: xsltwin32config.h and jhbuild

2005-07-06 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 04:24:38PM +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: Why can't the necessary file be generated by Windows users? because configure doesn't run for people using standard Windows tools. Daniel, can you be a bit more specific ? What exactly does not allow people

Re: xsltwin32config.h and jhbuild

2005-07-06 Thread James Henstridge
Daniel Veillard wrote: can you be a bit more specific ? What exactly does not allow people to run configure under Windows ? Lots of projects build fine under windows using the standard autotools set. The serious libxml2 contributors on Windows don't run cygwin or migwin. Most of the

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:53 +0300, regatta wrote: Hi I know many people will not like me :) , but this just a question please don´t hate me :) is there any plan to drop xscreensaver or at less do a heavy change on it (the ugly lock login didn´t change since I think gnome 2 or even before

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 07:44 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:53 +0300, regatta wrote: Hi I know many people will not like me :) , but this just a question please don´t hate me :) is there any plan to drop xscreensaver or at less do a heavy change on it

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 08:46 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 12:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 07:44 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:53 +0300, regatta wrote: Hi I know many people will not like me :) , but

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 13:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: snip Please read the original thread, all of this has already been discussed: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/24408 And: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.desktop/21149 and:

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Eric Larson
I've been advocating a simple enter-your-email-we-won't-spam-you form I can't imagine any casual system will provide very reliable data so why worry about an email address. If it is the first time a person starts gnome, maybe ask them to let us know they are running gnome. Also, what about the

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Robert Love
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 14:37 +1200, John Williams wrote: Essentially we propose modifying the GNOME About box to include a toggle that indicate the user's permission to activate a program that would periodically contact a central GNOME server. Information that would be transmitted and

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2005-07-05 at 16:21, Robert Love wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 14:37 +1200, John Williams wrote: Essentially we propose modifying the GNOME About box to include a toggle that indicate the user's permission to activate a program that would periodically contact a central GNOME

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Hi William, It does indeed seem that you have address many of our concerns with respect to the screen saver. Bastien filled me in. We are going to discuss including it in Fedora today and will most likely get some test packages and play around with it and give you feedback. On Wed,

switching to g-c-c shell? [Was: Re: Control center and capplet merging]

2005-07-06 Thread Carlos Garnacho
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 14:11 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: Merging items could be useful. However, I don't think just shoving the same existing UI into multiple tabs in a single dialog will help really. It will just mean less things in the menu, and more confusion to users who are looking for

[PROPOSAL] services-admin from g-s-t for 2.12

2005-07-06 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi everybody!, I haven't seen any proposal in the whole 2.11 period, so here's one to break the ice: I'm proposing services-admin from gnome-system-tools for 2.12, the last g-s-t version (1.3.0[.x]) compiles it by default, featuring a dead easy GUI [1] to activate/deactivate services, both in

Re: [PROPOSAL] services-admin from g-s-t for 2.12

2005-07-06 Thread Rob Adams
g-s-t is already part of gnome, right? So presumably including additional g-s-t tools is up to the discretion of the g-s-t maintainers? -Rob On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 19:46 +0200, Carlos Garnacho wrote: Hi everybody!, I haven't seen any proposal in the whole 2.11 period, so here's one to break

Re: Application/System Tools vs System/Administration

2005-07-06 Thread Rob Adams
That's close but that talks about Preferences and Administration. I'm talking about System Tools and Administration. On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 06:43 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Rob Adams I think that the separation of these two menus is confusing.

Re: switching to g-c-c shell? [Was: Re: Control center and capplet merging]

2005-07-06 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 03:31:58PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 19:37 +0200, Carlos Garnacho wrote: Some may think that it could encourage people to add more capplets, but that's already happening, in the last 2 releases we've added Multimedia systems selector,

Re: switching to g-c-c shell? [Was: Re: Control center and capplet merging]

2005-07-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 14:15 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: In these cases, it would be good to be able to find a way to get access without too much trouble like a troubleshooter system that tells you where to go if the default multimedia stuff doesn't work. I don't want to be too sarcastic

eggcups (and libgnomecups) for 2.12

2005-07-06 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, Looking at the schedule I thought I'd missed the time period left for new modules, but looking again it appears we still have a small amount of time. I'd like to propose eggcups for 2.12. For more information about eggcups, see:

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread John Williams
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 16:48 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: Join Friends of GNOME and celebrate easy to use software for $OS! (email form) What question are we asking? :-) I *think* we're asking 'how many users of GNOME are there', not 'how many discovered gnome-about in their panel and

Re: switching to g-c-c shell? [Was: Re: Control center and capplet merging]

2005-07-06 Thread Carlos Garnacho
--- Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 19:37 +0200, Carlos Garnacho wrote: Some may think that it could encourage people to add more capplets, but that's already happening, in the last 2 releases we've added Multimedia systems selector, Remote desktop and

Re: Modifying GNOME-About to count users

2005-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa I *think* we're asking 'how many users of GNOME are there' Broadly, yes, but what we've discussed is establishing multiple data sources (however reliable, having datapoints with caveats is better than nothing) as well as providing encouragement through momentum. - Jeff --

Re: Application/System Tools vs System/Administration

2005-07-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Rob Adams That's close but that talks about Preferences and Administration. I'm talking about System Tools and Administration. In many ways, they're in it together. One way of getting rid of crapplets is by integrating them into more useful locations - you could do the same thing