Re: Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-19 Thread Alan Cox
> Then I don't see how Alan's point can be applied. Someone with a > Bomb... game should be free to label "GNOME certified" if it > happens to satisfy the technical aspects. And it should be clear > that it's a self-certificate. Maybe it should not be called a > certificate after all. "GNOME Fr

Re: [PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 19:36 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > You also want to change something in config_tool_changed(), I think. > > > > > like checking if the command entered by the user is correct? Added to > > the patch also. > > Great! > > Just one last comment: at the end of fill_clock_app

Re: Clearlooks and GNOME 2.12

2005-07-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 23:26 +0200, Danilo Šegan wrote: > Today at 22:42, Richard Stellingwerff wrote: > > > Personally, I'd really prefer to keep distributing standalone > > packages, since it allows me to do more frequent releases. > > Nobody would object if gtk-engines got more frequent releas

Re: Clearlooks and GNOME 2.12

2005-07-19 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 22:42, Richard Stellingwerff wrote: > Personally, I'd really prefer to keep distributing standalone > packages, since it allows me to do more frequent releases. Nobody would object if gtk-engines got more frequent releases. :) I.e. this should not impact a decision, since if clearlooks

Clearlooks and GNOME 2.12

2005-07-19 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
Hi everyone, Being one of the authors of Clearlooks, I think it would be a good idea to let myself be heard :) First I'd like to apologize for this new thread. I only just subscribed to this mailinglist, so I can't reply to the previous thread. I'm very excited that Clearlooks will be part of GN

ANNOUNCEMENT: Gnome-Doc-Utils Migration Guide

2005-07-19 Thread Danilo Šegan
Heya hackers, We've just written a guide to help you migrate your modules to gnome-doc-utils, which will immensly help both documentors and translators. Just head straight over to: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDocUtilsMigrationHowTo The early winners are bug-buddy (which shaunm converted) and

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 12:03 +0100, Mark McLoughlin a écrit : > 1. Session Services vs. Session Managed Apps > > > The idea here is that the concept of "saving session state" has no > relevance to most of the programs which are currently controlle

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Drago
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:01 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 7/19/05, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 11:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The naming of the packages could also be such that there is no ch

Many bugzilla keywords to be nuked soon

2005-07-19 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi all, The number of keywords[1] in bugzilla is ridiculously huge making them almost completely useless. We've identified a few dozen to nuke as a starting point in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302635, but thought we'd give people a chance to complain as there may be reason to save

Re: [PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 16:27 +0200, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 14:41 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi Rodrigo, > > > > On Tue, July 19, 2005 13:36, Rodrigo Moya said: > > > Hi > > > > > > This patch adds support for SuSE's YAST datetime config tool in the > > > clock apple

Daily Packaging (was Re: make distcheck in tinderbox)

2005-07-19 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 16:37, Dan Winship wrote: > Could we just package up the results of the jhbuild in a dumb, > completely mechanical way, such that installing the packages would be > exactly equivalent to running jhbuild? ie, it wouldn't replace or > conflict with your existing GNOME packages, it would jus

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/05, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 11:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The naming of the packages could also be such that there is no chance of > > > conflicting with your vendor gnome, current ver

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Dan Winship
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 11:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The naming of the packages could also be such that there is no chance of > > conflicting with your vendor gnome, current version or later installed. > > I think Dan was suggesting (a

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:22 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > Well, a service really wants to acquire a dbus name as early in it's > > lifecycle as possible. gnome_service_initialize needs to be called > > really early on. It's a blocking function and--like you've pointed > > out--it changes the

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Yeah, figured it would have to be per-distro*. With a little help from > vmware or something along those lines that should be too hard to automate. That'll be slow. Use a chroot. :-) - Jeff -- OSCON 2005: August 1st-5th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/ All this sel

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/05, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If we're going to throw massive tarballs over the wall, might as > > well add the extra few megs and just make them debug from the start, no? > > > > Luis (noting that he has no idea if this would actually *work*) > > This has been done

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread James Henstridge
Dan Winship wrote: Could we just package up the results of the jhbuild in a dumb, completely mechanical way, such that installing the packages would be exactly equivalent to running jhbuild? ie, it wouldn't replace or conflict with your existing GNOME packages, it would just install everything i

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
> If we're going to throw massive tarballs over the wall, might as > well add the extra few megs and just make them debug from the start, no? > > Luis (noting that he has no idea if this would actually *work*) This has been done a few times in the history of GARNOME. It works fine, tho it's ea

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 10:37 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 16:06 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > On 7/18/05, Andrew Sobala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:54 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > >

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 10:37 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 16:06 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > On 7/18/05, Andrew Sobala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:54 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > What's so difficult about jhbuild? Couldn't we make just make

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > I think I'm with Matthias on this - make distcheck shows plenty of > issues that aren't going to affect anyone in reality, and no maintainer > wants to be pestered every day about the latest random thing that's > gotten screwed up. > > If p

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Dan Winship
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 16:06 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 7/18/05, Andrew Sobala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:54 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > What's so difficult about jhbuild? Couldn't we make just make it easier > > > (such as having jhbuild autodetect stuff in /u

Re: [PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 14:41 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi Rodrigo, > > On Tue, July 19, 2005 13:36, Rodrigo Moya said: > > Hi > > > > This patch adds support for SuSE's YAST datetime config tool in the > > clock applet. > > > > Ok to commit? > > Thanks for the patch. > Some comments (I might be

Re: /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager

2005-07-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 13:45 +0100, Mark McLoughlin a écrit : > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 10:20 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > > 1) Add deprecation notices to the docs for all of those keys > > > > 2) Remove the setting of "default" in gnome-wm > > > > 3) Remove the wm-properties code i

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Chipzz
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Ikke wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:42:09 +0200 > > From: Ikke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: make distcheck

Re: /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 10:20 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > 1) Add deprecation notices to the docs for all of those keys > > 2) Remove the setting of "default" in gnome-wm > > 3) Remove the wm-properties code in gnome-control-center/capplets and > libwindow-settings (wm-exec.c, wm-li

Re: [PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Rodrigo, On Tue, July 19, 2005 13:36, Rodrigo Moya said: > Hi > > This patch adds support for SuSE's YAST datetime config tool in the > clock applet. > > Ok to commit? Thanks for the patch. Some comments (I might be totally wrong since I don't have the whole code here): +if (tool && g

[PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi This patch adds support for SuSE's YAST datetime config tool in the clock applet. Ok to commit? -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Index: ChangeLog === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-panel/applets/clock/ChangeLog,v retrieving revisi

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, (Just picking some random comments to reply to) On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 11:03 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > > If that is the case, I'm not sure why > > we're doing this ... certainly in the case of the panel, there's no > > reason to delay the panel startup that long; the curr

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, So, I've been thinking about what we're trying to achieve here and whether the current proposal really meets our goals, so I thought we'd try and just write down exactly what the goals are. Here's a first attempt ... Cheers, Mark. Goals: == 1. Separate notion of sessio

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:34 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:23 +0200, Ikke wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > > I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the > > > > disadvantages. > > > > > > OK, but what are t