Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Dan Winship
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: [0] I'm reasonably sure it has some. not as the one proposed to avoid pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no, lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously: an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: 6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with git. There should also be a short introduction to git somewhere on the wiki. And some

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about CoC, I don't like you're talking

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On ma, 2009-01-05 at 12:32 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: 6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with git. There should also be a

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Mathias Hasselmann wrote: Am I missing something? Make build.gnome.org work with the new setup; I plan to write some requirements (nothing fancy, and stuffs that will most probably be also required elsewhere). There may also be some other infrastructure systems that would require some porting

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Josselin Mouette wrote: BTW, do we have the resources to migrate the repository to the SVN 1.5 format? It looks like, independently from other decisions, a quick and easy way to improve the situation – and to improve it right now, not in 2010. Olav announced it on October 29th:

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they want. These

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 09:51 -0500, Dan Winship a écrit : It seems pretty clear that the git-over-bzr solution doesn't make the git users any happier than git-over-svn does, so let's not pretend that it's any different from doing just bzr. So, given that we seem to have sysadmin resources

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! Am Montag, den 05.01.2009, 16:23 +0100 schrieb Mathias Hasselmann: First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey for giving us numbers. Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes. No idea why that many people become personal. This is

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Natan Yellin
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/5 Ali Sabil ali.sa...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Uh, but that's exactly

file-roller branched

2009-01-05 Thread Paolo Bacchilega
Hello, I've just created the gnome-2-24 branch for the file-roller SVN module. As usual the trunk branch will be used to develop the next stable version, while gnome-2-24 will be used for maintenance of the 2.24.x series. Happy new year, Paolo

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Felipe Contreras
2009/1/5 Ali Sabil ali.sa...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that the points I made (that you didn't respond

Re: ORBit2 stopped calling g_thread_init(), and consequences

2009-01-05 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Or just revert the change to ORBit2 Done. --tml ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 11:23 +0100, Edward Hervey wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 20:32 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME. From the survey opening page:

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Edward Hervey
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 20:32 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME. From the survey opening page: Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey for giving us numbers. Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes. No idea why that many people become personal. This is really unpleasant. Third of all: What so complicated about this migration? As

Re: Time for the annual bugzilla statistics!

2009-01-05 Thread Willie Walker
Believe me, if I had direct control over it, I'd hire Joanie in an instant. She's an awesome contributor and is the type of person every project needs. Will Joanmarie Diggs wrote: For whatever it's worth: Joanmarie Diggs works for Sun on accessibility (mostly Orca). I happen to be a

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about CoC, I don't like you're talking to me. Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's personal and

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Julien PUYDT
Ali Sabil a écrit : That's not what John's proposal is about ! John wants to use the bzr format as a repository format, and add a git-serve plugin to bzr to be able to talk to the git clients. In other words, you will be able to access the same data using either bzr, git or hg. Well, if people

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:00:52AM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: I'd like to help with another path forward, namely native git repositories since I believe that is what most of the community wants. As you said, it isn't clear how it could work for non-sysadmins to come up with clear proposal

New Module Proposal: libseed

2009-01-05 Thread Robert Carr
I was not planning to do this until .28, however a nice Clutter game written in Seed was merged in to gnome-games today, and there is some interest in being able to include this in .26. I would like to propose Seed (http://live.gnome.org/Seed) as a beta -bindings module for .26 For those not

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: GNOME contributors with an SVN account who had an SSH key installed on their account were invited to fill in the survey. [It is NOT my intention to get all negative here; I understand - and accept - that projects make decisions and not

Re: New Module Proposal: libseed

2009-01-05 Thread Robert Carr
A quick addendum, I was incorrect about external dependencies as gobject-introspection does not seem to be listed as a GNOME external dependency or module yet, however it seems to be very well received, and is already receiving broad use (Vala, gnome-shell, several other language bindings...).

Re: New Module Proposal: libseed

2009-01-05 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/1/6 Robert Carr ca...@rpi.edu: A quick addendum, I was incorrect about external dependencies as gobject-introspection does not seem to be listed as a GNOME external dependency or module yet, however it seems to be very well received, and is already receiving broad use (Vala, gnome-shell,

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, [Disclaimer: I wasn't involved in the construction or running of the survey, other than the analysis you saw plus some late feedback on the survey questions (I think my feedback was merely to suggest the other answer for contributor types.)] 2009/1/5 Andrew Cowie

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Max Kanat-Alexander
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:40:18 -0500 David Zeuthen da...@fubar.dk wrote: Then what happens when a new version of git with a new feature, incompatible with the git-serve kludge, is released? I don't know if you've talked to the git developers, but they're very firmly against adding any new

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Max Kanat-Alexander
So, I'm not a GNOME contributor, but I am the author of VCI, a Perl module that interacts with version control systems (currently CVS, Svn, Hg, Git, and Bzr), and so I wanted to chime in a bit on this thread. The first thing to understand is that the git server protocol is very