Hi all,
So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module
inclusion for Tracker. You can see the thread here:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/tracker-list/2009-August/msg7.html
The response was positive. So
On 18/08/09 13:05, Martyn Russell wrote:
Hi all,
...
Dependencies about to be dropped but still needed:
gmime
lex
yacc
libraptor
I forgot to add, librasqal will also be dropped soon (mentioned below).
The git repository is here:
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/tracker/
We import the followi
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> The response was positive. So I would like to propose Tracker as a new
> GNOME module.
though I've seen the amount of work that has been done on it, I admit
I'm still ambivalent on Tracker, and the fact that nobody has come clear
with th
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>
>libxml >= 0.6
>libpng >= 1.2
>libuuid
>zlib
>dbus >= 0.60
>sqlite3 >= 3.5 (built with --enable-load-extension)
>hal >= 0.5
>vala >= 0.7.3
>pango >= 1.0.0
>
Is there plans to replace HAL by GIO or devic
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Luis Medinas wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>> hal >= 0.5
> Is there plans to replace HAL by GIO or devicekit ? Hal will be
> deprecated soon afaik.
...or rather by libgudev, there is no such thing as DeviceKit :)
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Luis Medinas wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
>>> hal >= 0.5
>> Is there plans to replace HAL by GIO or devicekit ? Hal will be
>> deprecated soon afaik.
>
> ...or rather
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:57 +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
> Is there plans to replace HAL by GIO or devicekit ? Hal will be
> deprecated soon afaik.
Richard Hughes has already ported the battery handling of Tracker to
DeviceKit-power. It's used if available, otherwise HAL is used. The
volume handling
William Jon McCann wrote:
> So, in preparation for GNOME Shell and 3.0 a number of us have been
> trying to address various inconsistencies in how we name applications.
>
> [...]
>
> What do you think? (please read the blog post before answering)
After further discussion on the XDG mailing list
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Frederic Peters wrote:
>
> Is everybody ok to proceed ?
>
Sounds good to me.
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On 18/08/09 13:42, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
The response was positive. So I would like to propose Tracker as a new
GNOME module.
though I've seen the amount of work that has been done on it, I admit
I'm still ambivalent on Tracker, and th
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Frederic Peters wrote:
>
> - If Name is just the application name, leave it alone
> - If there is no GenericName, leave it alone
> - If Name == GenericName: remove GenericName
> - If Name embeds both the application name and the generic name
> - Add X-FullName
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:06 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote:
> William Jon McCann wrote:
>
> > So, in preparation for GNOME Shell and 3.0 a number of us have been
> > trying to address various inconsistencies in how we name applications.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > What do you think? (please read the blog
Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > Impact for translations: at most a new string for each modules, with
> > the application "brand" name (that could be left alone, for languages
> > that do not do transliteration).
>
> Will we get automagic translator comments so that "Rhythmbox" doesn't
> get translated
On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
> developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module
> inclusion for Tracker. You can see the thread here:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org
The indexer part is optional
The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
be used by zeitgeist
If the consensus is that indexer is not suitable for inclusion then the
separate tracker-store should be considered for inclusion separately
the store does not do any indexin
On 18/08/09 16:18, Jamie McCracken wrote:
The indexer part is optional
Well, right now it isn't but it will be at some point sure.
The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
be used by zeitgeist
If the consensus is that indexer is not suitable for inclusion then t
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jamie
McCracken wrote:
> The indexer part is optional
>
> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> be used by zeitgeist
>
> If the consensus is that indexer is not suitable for inclusion then the
> separate tracker-store should be con
On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote:
>
> The indexer part is optional
>
> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> be used by zeitgeist
>
> If the consensus is that indexer is not suitable for inclusion then the
> separate
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:18 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 16:18, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> > The indexer part is optional
>
> Well, right now it isn't but it will be at some point sure.
>
> > The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> > be used by zeitgei
On Tue, 18.08.09 17:20, Patryk Zawadzki (pat...@pld-linux.org) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jamie
> McCracken wrote:
> > The indexer part is optional
> >
> > The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> > be used by zeitgeist
> >
> > If the consensus is
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> The indexer part is optional
>>
>> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
>> be used by zeitgeist
>>
>> If the consensus
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Uh, generally bugs should be fixed, not worked around. Especially if
> they are as crucial as this one.
Sure but getting a recursive inotify will likely take years as with
most kernel features (= development time + significant adoption t
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:20 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jamie
> McCracken wrote:
> > The indexer part is optional
> >
> > The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> > be used by zeitgeist
> >
> > If the consensus is that indexer is
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:20 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jamie
> McCracken wrote:
> > The indexer part is optional
> >
> > The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> > be used by zeitgeist
> >
> > If the consensus is that indexer is
On Tue, 18.08.09 17:26, Patryk Zawadzki (pat...@pld-linux.org) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > Uh, generally bugs should be fixed, not worked around. Especially if
> > they are as crucial as this one.
>
> Sure but getting a recursive inotify will like
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:24 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The indexer part is optional
> >>
> >> The main part tracker-store is just a datab
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
>> It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
>> API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
>> storage in Epiphany.
>>
>> Xan
>
> Hmm. Is it one-in-all database? Then:
> - How you keep it out of
On Tue, 18.08.09 18:24, Xan Lopez (x...@gnome.org) wrote:
> >> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> >> be used by zeitgeist
> >>
> >> If the consensus is that indexer is not suitable for inclusion then the
> >> separate tracker-store should be considered for inc
On 18/08/09 16:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
Hmm. The beef I have with Tracker (and Beagle fwiw) is that they build
something on infrastructure that currently is not good enough
to sustain it: inotify. inotify is simply not suitabl
On 18/08/09 16:25, Jamie McCracken wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:18 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
That doesn't make any sense to me either. On its own it is useless then,
at least with the file system crawler it can populate the database and
be usable.
Its not useless if apps like zeitgeist a
Xan Lopez wrote:
It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
storage in Epiphany.
Do you mean storing actual bookmarks into the database ?
I would be quite reluctant in mixing actual data with rebuildable
2009/8/18 Martyn Russell :
> On 18/08/09 16:18, Jamie McCracken wrote:
>>
>> The indexer part is optional
>
> Well, right now it isn't but it will be at some point sure.
>
>> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
>> be used by zeitgeist
>>
>> If the consensus is tha
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:40 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Maciej Piechotka
> wrote:
> >> It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
> >> API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
> >> storage in Epiphany.
> >>
> >> Xan
>
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 16:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
> > Hmm. The beef I have with Tracker (and Beagle fwiw) is that they build
> > something on infrastructure that currently is
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
>> API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
>> storage in Epiphany.
>
> I might not be fully up to date on all these things, but has Zeitgeist
>
On 18/08/09 16:57, Jamie McCracken wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 18/08/09 16:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
Hmm. The beef I have with Tracker (and Beagle fwiw) is that they build
something on i
2009/8/18 Xan Lopez :
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Maciej Piechotka
> wrote:
> I have no idea if Tracker uses just one huge file for everything or if
> it can use one file per application/domain/whatever (and in any case
> that's an implementation detail not terribly important for this debat
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:50 +0200, Steve Frécinaux wrote:
> Xan Lopez wrote:
> > It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
> > API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
> > storage in Epiphany.
>
> Do you mean storing actual bookmarks into the data
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 16:57, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >> On 18/08/09 16:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
> >>> Hmm. The
On 18/08/09 16:57, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/8/18 Xan Lopez:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
I have no idea if Tracker uses just one huge file for everything or if
it can use one file per application/domain/whatever (and in any case
that's an implementation detail not te
On 18/08/09 17:03, Jamie McCracken wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
We already do that. But some projects have a LOT of directories ;)
do we? It still indexes all source files for me. Just to be clear I mean
skipping a directory called Gnome if it contains a hidd
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
>> developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module
>> inclusion for Tracker. You can see the thr
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:02 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 17:03, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >> We already do that. But some projects have a LOT of directories ;)
> >
> > do we? It still indexes all source files for me. Just to
Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2009, 17:40 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> I might not be fully up to date on all these things, but has Zeitgeist
> even been submitted as a module yet?
Not yet.
andre
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 05:02:56PM +0100, Rob Taylor wrote:
> So we discussed this at the kernel-fixing-bof at GCDS. IIRC we basically
> decided that being able to have a recursive inotify with a new flag was
> the best option. Matthew Garrett was planning on taking the issues that
> we discussed
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:55 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not used by
> > anything else in GNOME, does it really make sense to push it into
> > GNOME?
> >
> > Also, even if the sto
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
McCracken wrote:
>
> we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
> ordinary users but not devs fetching source code or other command line
> stuff
Unless it's really REALLY compelling and fast, I don't want my source
code in any ki
On 18/08/09 17:06, Jamie McCracken wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:02 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 18/08/09 17:03, Jamie McCracken wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:57 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
We already do that. But some projects have a LOT of directories ;)
do we? It still indexes all
On 18/08/09 17:11, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
McCracken wrote:
we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
ordinary users but not devs fetching source code or other command line
stuff
Unless it's really REALLY compelling and fast,
On 18/08/09 17:07, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:55 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not used by
anything else in GNOME, does it really make sense to push it into
GNOME?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
> developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module
> inclusion for Tracker. You can see the thread here:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:11 +, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
> McCracken wrote:
> >
> > we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
> > ordinary users but not devs fetching source code or other command line
> > stuff
>
> Unless it's
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:16 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
> > developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module
> > inclusion for Tra
On Tue, 18.08.09 16:44, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
>> As I see it the usefulness of Tracker stands or falls with the
>> scalablity of inotify. As long as inotify does not natively support
>> recursive watches tracker is not viable.
>
> Well file monitoring really is just one part of
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:24 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:16 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core
> > > developers and othe
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:57 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> > On 18/08/09 16:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18.08.09 13:05, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
> > > Hmm. The beef I have with Tracker (and Beagle fwiw) is
On Tue, 18.08.09 18:16, Maciej Piechotka (uzytkown...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Licensing wise, those libinotify and rasqal both share the LGPL, as does
> > libtracker. The rest is GPLv2 or later.
> >
> > /discuss ;)
> >
>
> Well. Currently there are two projects which, at least for the first
> si
On 18/08/09 17:28, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 18.08.09 16:44, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
As I see it the usefulness of Tracker stands or falls with the
scalablity of inotify. As long as inotify does not natively support
recursive watches tracker is not viable.
Well file
On Tue, 18.08.09 18:55, Xan Lopez (x...@gnome.org) wrote:
> > If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not used by
> > anything else in GNOME, does it really make sense to push it into
> > GNOME?
> >
> > Also, even if the store has uses besides the indexer, just be honest:
> > does
On 18/08/09 17:44, Lennart Poettering wrote:
I don't think it would be a good idea to use GNOME solely as a vehicle
to make things more popular with other developers...
Actually, we want to be in GNOME not only for availability but also to
have a release schedule to run with. Right now we are
Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2009, 18:24 +0200 schrieb Rodrigo Moya:
> I might be wrong and things might have changed, but isn't beagle
> unmaintained?
According to http://git.gnome.org/cgit/beagle/log/ it is not
unmaintained but most probably has less developers/parties working on it
than on tracker: h
On 08/18/2009 12:32 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
> The only reason you're suggesting tracker-store shouldn't be called
> "tracker" is due to the social stigma associated with what Tracker is,
> i.e. all about the file system.
The stigma associated with Tracker is because historically the tracker
hack
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 18:55, Xan Lopez (x...@gnome.org) wrote:
>
>> > If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not used by
>> > anything else in GNOME, does it really make sense to push it into
>> > GNOME?
>> >
>> > Also, even i
Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 17:47 +0100, Martyn Russell a écrit :
> On 18/08/09 17:44, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >I don't think it would be a good idea to use GNOME solely as a vehicle
> >to make things more popular with other developers...
>
> Actually, we want to be in GNOME not only for availabi
On Tue, 18.08.09 16:11, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
> McCracken wrote:
> >
> > we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
> > ordinary users but not devs fetching source code or other command line
> > stuff
>
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:41 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 18:16, Maciej Piechotka (uzytkown...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > > Licensing wise, those libinotify and rasqal both share the LGPL, as does
> > > libtracker. The rest is GPLv2 or later.
> > >
> > > /discuss ;)
> > >
> >
Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 17:47 +0100, Martyn Russell a écrit :
>> On 18/08/09 17:44, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> I don't think it would be a good idea to use GNOME solely as a vehicle
>>> to make things more popular with other developers...
>> Actually, we want to be in GNOM
On 18/08/09 16:53, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/8/18 Martyn Russell:
On 18/08/09 16:18, Jamie McCracken wrote:
The indexer part is optional
Well, right now it isn't but it will be at some point sure.
The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
be used by zeitgeist
I
On Tue, 18.08.09 17:44, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
>> And that exists? What providers are there besides the indexer?
>
> Yes, there are some in progress right now.
So there's nothing usable yet?
>>> We also are using breadth based monitoring so top level folders always
>>> get pri
On 18/08/09 17:48, Dan Winship wrote:
On 08/18/2009 12:32 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
The only reason you're suggesting tracker-store shouldn't be called
"tracker" is due to the social stigma associated with what Tracker is,
i.e. all about the file system.
The stigma associated with Tracker is b
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Jürg Billeter wrote:
> the battery handling of Tracker
I probably have missed some part of tracker's mission...
Why is tracker handling batteries ?
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Jürg Billeter wrote:
> > the battery handling of Tracker
>
> I probably have missed some part of tracker's mission...
> Why is tracker handling batteries ?
For instance to stop indexing when the device
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:35 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 16:11, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
> > McCracken wrote:
> > >
> > > we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
> > > ordinar
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:21 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote:
> > The indexer part is optional
> >
> > The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to
> > be used by zeitgeist
> >
> > If the con
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:14 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 17:11, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
> > McCracken wrote:
> >>
> >> we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and that would work for
> >> ordinary users but not devs fetching source cod
On 18/08/09 18:04, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 18.08.09 17:44, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
And that exists? What providers are there besides the indexer?
Yes, there are some in progress right now.
So there's nothing usable yet?
No :)
Right but source is less importan
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:15 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 17:07, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:55 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Poettering
> >> wrote:
> >
> >>> If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not u
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 17:48, Dan Winship wrote:
> > On 08/18/2009 12:32 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
> >> The only reason you're suggesting tracker-store shouldn't be called
> >> "tracker" is due to the social stigma associated with what Tracker is,
> >
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:36 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
[CUT]
> Hmm. Is it one-in-all database? Then:
> - How you keep it out of corruption. Hardware and software errors
> happens and sometimes one lost files. If it is one file - ok I can live
> with it. If it is one-in-all file - ops (and ple
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:54 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:40 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote:
[CUT]
> I've got one signle use-case for Tracker, which I'd like to know if it
> works: with Nautilus you can tag files with emblems, but you can't
> search them afterwards.
> I'd like to
On 18/08/09 18:50, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 18/08/09 17:48, Dan Winship wrote:
On 08/18/2009 12:32 PM, Martyn Russell wrote:
The only reason you're suggesting tracker-store shouldn't be called
"tracker" is due to the social stigma associ
Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2009, 18:05 +0100 schrieb Martyn Russell:
> On 18/08/09 17:48, Dan Winship wrote:
> > The stigma associated with Tracker is because historically the tracker
> > hackers have been unable to describe what the non-filesystem-indexing
> > part of Tracker does without
[...]
> > c
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I guess a problem here is that nobody except the Tracker people
> themselves even know what an ontology or Nepomuk actually is.
You can consider an ontology as high level language to describe data, a
language to write "db schemas
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:50 +0200, Steve Frécinaux wrote:
> Xan Lopez wrote:
> > It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an
> > API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history
> > storage in Epiphany.
>
> Do you mean storing actual bookmarks into the data
Hi Jamie,
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:32 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> > Couldn't you just make gio (or gedit or OpenOffice) notify you every
> > time it closes a file instead of monitoring bazillions of files? I'm
> > not very likely to search for files I've never opened anyway.
>
> we could use t
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 19:57 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2009, 18:05 +0100 schrieb Martyn Russell:
> > On 18/08/09 17:48, Dan Winship wrote:
> > > The stigma associated with Tracker is because historically the tracker
> > > hackers have been unable to describe what the non-
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 19:40 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:14 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> > On 18/08/09 17:11, Colin Walters wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jamie
> > > McCracken wrote:
> > >>
> > >> we could use the Gtk Recent files stuff for this and th
Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
> We'll do our best and are committed to formulate our answers in a
> non-vague way and improve the communication of the project's members,
> about the project, towards the community.
Maybe just clearly state what tracker (or tracker-
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 19:21 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Jamie,
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:32 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote:
> > > Couldn't you just make gio (or gedit or OpenOffice) notify you every
> > > time it closes a file instead of monitoring bazillions of files? I'm
> > > not very lik
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 19:21 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
[CUT]
> Unfortunately, as soon as we have this, it is only a small
> feature-creep step to "lets index all .c/.h files to extract comments in
> the API documentation" - which (I suspect) then commits you to the
> disaster of irritating
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 18/08/09 17:28, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >>> Or in short: just f*ing fix the kernel first.
> >>
> >> Are you volunteering? :)
> >
> > I am not hacking on Tracker, am I?
>
> And Tracker is not the kernel either, it is also not the on
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
> > We'll do our best and are committed to formulate our answers in a
> > non-vague way and improve the communication of the project's members,
> > about the project, towards the
On 18/08/09 19:17, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:44 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 18/08/09 17:28, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Or in short: just f*ing fix the kernel first.
Are you volunteering? :)
I am not hacking on Tracker, am I?
And Tracker is not the kernel either,
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
> > We'll do our best and are committed to formulate our answers in a
> > non-vague way and improve the communication of the project's members,
> > about the project, towards the
On Tue, 18.08.09 14:48, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
> > > We'll do our best and are committed to formulate our answers in a
> > > non-vague way and
On Tue, 18.08.09 18:43, Martyn Russell (mar...@lanedo.com) wrote:
So you are telling me file system notification does not matter much
for Tracker's usefulness? That's news to me indeed. But of course
leads to the question: what is it then what it offers that desn't need
file sy
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 18.08.09 14:48, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > > Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19 +0200, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
> > > > We'll do our best
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> (I don't want to create the impression that I am opposed to the idea
> of a desktop search engine. I actually do believe it makes sense, but
> really, you need to do a better job selling the specific technology
> tracker does.)
Don't thi
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 19:52 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote:
> I didn't say that and that is not the case either. I did talk to various
> people about improving the problems we have at GCDS this year. I also am
> not against fixing it or helping towards fixing it. I just resent people
> saying that
On Tue, 18.08.09 21:09, Patryk Zawadzki (pat...@pld-linux.org) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
> > (I don't want to create the impression that I am opposed to the idea
> > of a desktop search engine. I actually do believe it makes sense, but
> > really, yo
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