Re: Questions about the migration from GConf to GSettings/DConf

2015-07-20 Thread Milan Crha
On Sun, 2015-07-19 at 23:17 +0800, Oliver Luo wrote: > I've been spending several days working on the migration from GConf > to GSettings/DConf in our project evolution EAS... Hi, I suppose you mean evolution-activesync, as it's named in the GNOME repositories. > 1. Use relocatable schem

Looking for speakers for hacknight in Gothenburg on Aug 11th

2015-07-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hi all! FOSSGBG is a local free software group here in Gothenburg that has meetups every month or so to discuss various FOSS subjects. They're having an event on the 11th of August [1]. Since this overlaps with the GUADEC hackdays, the organizers of FOSSGBG thought it'd be nice to make this edi

Re: Questions about the migration from GConf to GSettings/DConf

2015-07-20 Thread David Woodhouse
Hi Milan, Thanks for your comprehensive response. On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 09:04 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > Briefly grepping the evolution-activesync code, the keys being read > from the GConf look like: > /apps/activesyncd/accounts// > /apps/activesyncd/accounts// > ... > so you can have a re

Re: Looking for speakers for hacknight in Gothenburg on Aug 11th

2015-07-20 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:34 AM Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Hi all! > FOSSGBG is a local free software group here in Gothenburg that has > meetups every month or so to discuss various FOSS subjects. They're > having an event on the 11th of August [1]. > Since this overlaps with the GUADEC hackdays,

Re: Looking for speakers for hacknight in Gothenburg on Aug 11th

2015-07-20 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 19:41 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Are the ones that come to mind. Maybe Bastien Nocera has some > hardware related type talk that he could talk about? I'm afraid I won't be in town any more by that time. Cheers ___ des

How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Owen Taylor
As we move to Wayland, some of the ways we used to work on the core parts of GNOME (like gnome-shell --replace) no longer work. I think this is a good time to look at how we hack on GNOME, how we can make it more standard and obvious for newcomers, and how we can make it easier. We can classify

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
I've hacked on things all the from 1-5. Everything has a different development process, as usual, and I don't think there's any sense in trying to unify them. Writing documentation and getting people started quicker is always great, but everybody's going to have their own little things. As for she

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 16:35 -0700, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > I've hacked on things all the from 1-5. Everything has a different > development process, as usual, and I don't think there's any sense in > trying to unify them. Writing documentation and getting people > started quicker is always grea

Re: Looking for speakers for hacknight in Gothenburg on Aug 11th

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 17:34 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > They are looking for people from the GNOME community who would like > to > present their work at the meetup. Let me know if you'd like to > volunteer. We'd like to have three 20-30 minutes talks. Subjects that > > would be interesting

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Alberto Ruiz
It'd be really nice if we could team up with the people working on container technology so that we were able to run a full GNOME session within a container. Even if it was privilleged. We could serve GNOME Continuous images as docker or lxc images with the latest stuff built in so that people can

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 02:04 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Relying on jhbuild from my point of view is a waste of everybody's > time, we've got all these developers building the same version of the > same > module in the same architecture again and again and again, to > reach more or > less the sa

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2015-07-20 at 19:11 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > 1) Hacking on system components that require hardware access (kernel > drivers, NetworkManager) > 2) Hacking on system components that don't inherently require > hardware access (kernel filesystems, systemd, polkit, gdm) > 3) Hacking on s

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
build.gnome.org used to have auto builders for jhbuild. The problem is that jhbuild building requires maintenance. Everyone I've talked to said that after a few months of trying to have a jhbuild autobuilder, they gave up. In my opinion, the way to fix this is to make jhbuild more like Continuous.

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:> > We can classify hacking on "GNOME" (taken very widely) into the following: > > 1) Hacking on system components that require hardware access (kernel > drivers, NetworkManager) > 2) Hacking on system components that don't inherently requ

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Are there specific reasons why KVM doesn't cut it for shell developers? GPU access? 2015-07-21 2:44 GMT+01:00 Ray Strode : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:> > > We can classify hacking on "GNOME" (taken very widely) into the > following: > > > > 1) Hacking on system

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 03:00 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Are there specific reasons why KVM doesn't cut it for shell > developers? GPU access? As mentioned in the original mail, there are two main issues: A) Indirection from the hardware: network, sound, monitors, webcams, bluetooth, touchs

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Michael, Another problem I didn't mention which is that sometime the checkout dir makes "make" go bonkers at some point even with jhbuild build -fac. It is quite often that I update my jhbuild setup after ages of not touching it and I have to basically "rm -rf * && git reset --hard" and conf

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 02:04 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > It'd be really nice if we could team up with the people working on > container technology so that we were able to run a full GNOME session > within a container. Even if it was privilleged. I'm intimidated by the amount of work there. For e

Re: How do you hack on GNOME? How can we do better?

2015-07-20 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 03:11 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Another problem I didn't mention which is that sometime the checkout > dir makes "make" go bonkers at some point even with jhbuild build > -fac. It is quite often that I update my jhbuild setup after ages of > not touching it and I have to