Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-12 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/12/07, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed. > > What is so bad with keeping svn as the master repository (easy to use, > fast enough, very popular) and if people want to use git or bzr for > dvcs, then they use git-svn or bzr-svn? Many people can use those to > branch a svn rep

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-14 Thread Ali Sabil
I am wondering why discussion is continuing in the "Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)" thread, why the discussion is not happening here instead ?! I don't want to offend anyone (so take it lightly), but I am afraid that many of us are subject to a "Confirmation bias" ... Can't we just conti

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-15 Thread Ali Sabil
> > I am also afraid that we might be just becoming nothing more but "geek > > fashion" addicts trying to follow the latest RCS tendency without > > really building solid and constructive arguments ! > > I was going to be offended, but you warned :). Now that most probably > means that you don't h

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/16/07, Mikael Hallendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 16 sep 2007 kl. 04.40 skrev Curtis Hovey: > > > On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > >> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 01:10 +0200, Ali Sabil wrote: > >> - Keith Packard did a fai

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Ali Sabil
> > I don't think choosing git just because others did is a good way of making > choices in general. Although I agree with you to some extend that choosing > the same than freedesktop makes some sense to keep the toolchain smaller. > > I think that an impartial decision has to be made. I wonder if

Re: Mercurial - Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-23 Thread Ali Sabil
Hi all, > > > > In my opinion Mercurial has much of the benefits of GIT but with the > > ease of use of SVN. We dropped GIT and SVN at my company in favor of > > Mercurial. > > In what way is Mercurial simpler to use than Git? Looking quickly at > the Mercurial docs it seemed quite similar to Git

Re: Mercurial - Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-23 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/23/07, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007/9/23, Ali Sabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion Mercurial has much of the benefits of GIT but with the > > > > ease of use of SVN. We

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-24 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/24/07, Jason D. Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The critical difference in that analogy is that the thousands and > thousands of man-hours spent on Gecko are reused in the > Gnome-ification called Epiphany. As Empathy is proposed, all the work > in protocol implementation that has come be

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-24 Thread Ali Sabil
> I guess you do not know what ICE is ? Do you ? > Last time I checked ICE it was about finding a a quite good routing path (not always the best) between two endpoints for UDP packets. > Then can you explain us how ICE can help when STUN does not ? I would > like to see your argumentation here. >

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-24 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/24/07, Damien Sandras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 24 septembre 2007 à 11:34 +0200, Ali Sabil a écrit : > > > Then can you explain us how ICE can help when STUN does not ? I would > > > like to see your argumentation here. > > > > > Corre

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-26 Thread Ali Sabil
On 9/27/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 à 00:48 +0200, Sven Herzberg a écrit : > > Next question: consistency with the platform > > > > The GNOME platform uses LGPL as the license of choice to provide ISVs > > with a powerful stack that anyone can use -

Re: build systems

2007-11-09 Thread Ali Sabil
On Nov 9, 2007 8:01 PM, Richard Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 18:38 +, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: > > I created an initially simple configuration system for SCons and wrote > > SConstruct files for building Richard Hughes gnome-power-manager. It > > turned out to be a pr

Re: build systems

2007-11-11 Thread Ali Sabil
On Nov 11, 2007 9:58 PM, Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 18:20 +0100, Emmanuel Fleury wrote: > > Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > > > > > > I coded distcheck into WAF a couple of months ago. It wasn't even a > > > difficult task... > > > > What about gettext supp

Re: strawman (Was Re: build systems)

2007-11-12 Thread Ali Sabil
> > However, the most important point for this discussion is that this > approach makes it hard to provide a high-level UI a'la Eclipse or Visual > Studio which is what many many people are used to. One way to do this is > to use a declarative programming language (e.g. XML) to express the > build

Re: Recommended way to cleanup your own gobject types in a desktop app (finalize and/or dispose)

2008-03-23 Thread Ali Sabil
Hello, iirc, the GObject documentation states that dispose may be called multiple times, and the object must still be usable even after dispose is called, so freeing memory in dispose is wrong, even with locks. Actually both dispose and finalize are needed if your object hold references to other

Re: Recommended way to cleanup your own gobject types in a desktop app (finalize and/or dispose)

2008-03-23 Thread Ali Sabil
m wrong -- Ali On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Ronald S. Bultje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Ali Sabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The dispose will be called as > > many times as necessary to remove the refere

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-26 Thread Ali Sabil
2008/3/26 Sven Herzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Am Mittwoch, den 26.03.2008, 19:13 +0100 schrieb Xavier Claessens: > > > Did I forgot something? > > Xavier Claessens. > > Missing password security. And absolute no-go in the current shape. > What about the whole GNOME desktop that stores t

Re: Why do GNOMEdevelopers almost exclusively use git mirrors and for example not bzr mirrors

2008-04-08 Thread Ali Sabil
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 08:14:50AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 08:35 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: > > > I was just wondering why many GNOME developers are using git mirror > > > and for example no

Re: Why do GNOMEdevelopers almost exclusively use git mirrors and for example not bzr mirrors

2008-04-08 Thread Ali Sabil
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:45:34AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > (At least, that's what I understand) > > Indeed. This might be hard to do within Bzr (IIRC what Elijah said), due > to repository format / design. >

Re: libproxy as external dependency

2008-10-25 Thread Ali Sabil
2008/10/24 Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:09 +0100, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote: > > In this specific library case, since the API is so simple and you > > don't know you need it until you somehow check your app's settings > > it's a no-brainer really. > > You could lazy

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Ali Sabil
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:18 AM, John Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Claudio Saavedra wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote: > Lets not turn this into yet another bazaar vs. git war

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Ali Sabil
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats > > and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format > > changed and it didn't cause any pr

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Ali Sabil
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Robin Sonefors wrote: > On sön, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Luca Ferretti > wrote: > > > Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > > > > > >> It seems pretty clear to

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Ali Sabil
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that > > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's > > crazy to officially want

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-06 Thread Ali Sabil
> From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who > proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve > plugin for the bzr repo server. I think many people pointed out the major > flaws in that scenario. I want to stress that we should not make

Re: [announce] gnome-proxy

2007-01-17 Thread Ali Sabil
t mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list _______ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Ali Sabil ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Button highlighting, middle and right buttons don't work in Xaw application on GNOME desktop

2007-04-11 Thread Ali Sabil
On 4/11/07, Jonathan Kamens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do I use a different window manager? I tried killing metacity, but it just gets restarted by something automatically. I tried finding a control panel, preferences panel, etc. that would allow me to control which window manager I use, a

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-11 Thread Ali Sabil
Hello, I just checked out the gnome live page comparison of the 3 major DRCS, but I am afraid the page is actually heavily biased toward git, and contains a lot of outdated/irrelevant informations. I don't want to start a flamewar, but I think we should rather define a set of criterias that will a