recommended D-Bus version for GNOME releases

2007-01-22 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
fixes that bug and a whole lot of other bugs. 1.0.x series is API/ABI stable and supported by upstream. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/li

Re: recommended D-Bus version for GNOME releases

2007-01-23 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
gt; stabilisation period and I didn't disable those when we switched to > 1.0.x. I'll change that. Checks are what you want for a production build. Assertions and checks are what you want for a developer build. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: D-Bus vs jhbuild

2007-02-19 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
the configuration set to all the directories in its buildroot instead of using directive. Also one can set XDG_DATA_DIRS to point to the directory which contains dbus-1/services if is used. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: D-Bus vs jhbuild

2007-02-19 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:42 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 10:03 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 14:22 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 10:47 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > > > Hi. >

Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Recent blog posts I did ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
and projects make it into the GNOME releases. This will allow the projects themselves to gain real world feedback and allow GNOME to move faster by having applications already utilizing the technologies before they are accepted. This proposal is now open to comments and adjustments. -- John (

Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
and GARNOME worlds that they should try and enable it for feature testers. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
ven before they become part of the release. I know this happens organically but it doesn't hurt if we organize it more. Freedesktop has shown if you publicize projects in one place there is a higher experimental and adoption rate. There is also more discussion instead of having invisible pr

Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
ld forever. Yes, I think that would be one of the requirements. To post revised roadmaps every so often. > 2007/4/25, John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Recent blog posts I did: > > > > http://www.j5live.com/?p=355 > > http://www.j5live.com/?p=356 &g

Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 14:08 -0400, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 13:50 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > [...] > > > > The exciting stuff is happening all around us it is just that it is not > > publicized and much of it takes a long term view that do

Re: notification enhancements

2007-04-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
required a whole lot more than libnotify could give. We could possibly extend the protocol but to do what mugshot does efficiently would have required things such as layout files that were rejected in the initial discussions of libnotify and the notification daemon. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAI

Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-05-31 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
propose a module perhaps that is also a good away to get this started. > 2007/4/25, John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Recent blog posts I did: > > > > http://www.j5live.com/?p=355 > > http://www.j5live.com/?p=356 > > > > gave some people the impre

[patch] gfloppy port to new HAL 0.5.0 api

2005-03-09 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Not sure which list to send this to so I figure I would send it here. This is the port of the hal code in gfloppy from the gnome-utils tarball. -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software Engineer Desktop Group Red Hat, Inc. Blog: http://martianrock.com --- gnome-utils-2.9.92/gfloppy/src

Re: Perl vs Mono/C#

2005-05-22 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
ings perl can. I know I shouldn't feed the troll but this is the funniest thing I have read all week. I think there is a tear in my eye. Thank you Danielllano for enlightening us all. As of tomorrow all of GNOME will be written in Perl. -

Re: moving to dbus 0.3x asthe target version for G2.12 [was Re: DBus in G2.12]

2005-06-10 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
OME modules and if they aren't already in CVS it means they were just not applied yet. If anyone else needs help porting their stuff just let me know. I need to make a new DBus release pretty soon. I will do so before I go to Germany next week. -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software En

Re: moving to dbus 0.3x asthe target version for G2.12 [was Re: DBus in G2.12]

2005-06-10 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:33 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 6/10/05, John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:23 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > [Moving this off r-t to a broader group that might have more feedback on > > > this :

Re: moving to dbus 0.3x asthe target version for G2.12 [was Re: DBus in G2.12]

2005-06-10 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
st part API stable up to 1.0 (baring any limitations the Qt4 people find). At least we won't be seeing the massive changes that took place between 0.2x to 0.3x so lets get it over with and not prolong the inevitable. -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software Engineer Desktop Group Red Hat, Inc. Blog: http://martianrock.com ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
ement. Locking should be handled by GDM IMO. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 12:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 07:44 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 10:53 +0300, regatta wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I know many people will not like me :) , but this just a

Re: xscreensaver, any plan do drop it !!

2005-07-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
-06 at 11:28 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hello John, > > John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > Some people had some problems with it becoming a replacement. Not sure > > what they were and I haven't investigated it myself. > > I encourage you and others to actually

Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-07 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
rofit Anything else? -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-08 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 13:32 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 19:05 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > > > While I don't see this being included with the next GNOME 2.12 release > > many people have been asking for these features and I think it is time

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:14 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > Hey, guys- if I wanted to test this: > (1) what would I need to do to set it up, exactly? (presume that I > have all of GNOME running from source, and can patch as needed.) You just need to patch gnome-session with Rodrigo's latest patch (turn

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:38 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 7/11/05, John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:14 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > Hey, guys- if I wanted to test this: > > > (1) what would I need to do to set it up, ex

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 23:50 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:33 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:14 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > Hey, guys- if I wanted to test this: > > > (1) what would I need to do to set it u

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
een at the moment, which > basically means the splash screen will be empty. Any plans to fix > that or are we saying that the icons in the splash screen are > effectively useless? Splash screens are useless is the general sentiment. Just start the desktop ASAP. > - How

Re: File actions (was: Device icon action)

2005-08-16 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
ice-manager now) there is no free form text entry but a nice drop-down of applications that can handle audio burning capabilities for example. We could expand this to "virtual devices" such as your IM example (not saying we use HAL for this BTW). So there would

Re: dbus build borkage

2005-08-22 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:24 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > I wanted to post this to the dbus list, but I can't subscribe to it- > every address I try comes back invalid. So i'm posting here instead. > > Dr. Seuss on managing software development: > > "I learned there are troubles > of more than one k

Re: dbus build borkage

2005-08-22 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 12:20 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > On 8/22/05, John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:24 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > > > I wanted to post this to the dbus list, but I can't subscribe to it- > > > every ad

Re: session autostart

2005-10-06 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
d? Yes. Mark it on the schedule. We also need to talk about the dbus changes needed with Havoc. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2005-12-08 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
t; Luca > > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ de

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2005-12-09 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
12-09 at 10:51 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 23:17 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > I'm in the middle of revamping the API and protocol. I'm just about to > > do the first release this weekend. I have been stuck on D-Bus issues > > which is

Moving libnotify and notify-daemon to Gnome CVS

2005-12-20 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
It has been suggested that we move these from the galago SVN servers to Gnome CVS. Christian was in favor of this awhile back. This will make it easier for Gnome hackers to hack on it if they so wish. The modules would be libnotify and notify-daemon. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Another way to solve the Spatial vs. Navigational debate

2005-12-21 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
login On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 22:23 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: > See the attachment :-) > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- John (J5) P

Re: Another way to solve the Spatial vs. Navigational debate

2005-12-23 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
face. Perhaps a web site that users are directed to, having tips & tricks on customizing the Gnome desktop. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2006-01-03 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
hu, 2005-12-08 at 23:17 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > I'm in the middle of revamping the API and protocol. I'm just about to > > do the first release this weekend. I have been stuck on D-Bus issues > > which is why it has taken so long. We could possible go wi

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-11 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
re was a mail of someone requesting it for inclusion. I'm all for it. Dobey and ChipX86 are putting some final touches. Note Christian has renamed notify-daemon back to notification-daemon. -- John (J5) Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: dbus building pains

2006-07-24 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
The system bus (>=0.90) needs to be running and accessible by the build. We need to remove this dependency in the future. The quick fix is to build outside of jhbuild and copy the dbus-bus-introspect.xml into the tools directory in D-Bus's jhbuild build root. -- John (J5) Palmi

Re: remove tomboy dependency on gtkspell?

2006-08-25 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Sounds like a good 2.18 goal. On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 12:35 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 11:17 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: > > * Are there other modules in our release that provide similar > > functionality? Then again, we did bless Gecko, even though > > we already had tw

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-03 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
* stack so we didn't have to maintain two networking systems. Unfortunately, dynamic networks is still a big mountain to climb. Anyway as part of the release team +1 for NM-applet being in the release and gnome apps starting to (optionally) r

Re: Proposal: NetworkManager for GNOME 2.18.

2006-10-19 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
is right from the start. We should deprecate the old API and get a new clean API working before we approve this module for inclusion (so I take back my original thumbs up and put it at -45 degrees from up). Dan Williams is well aware of the API suckyness. It was one of the first D-Bus interfaces a