n working on the lib still (which would be
> sad).
It seriously lacks some loving, that's for sure.
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> someone that doesn't know anything about git (like myself)
Probably that's why it links to Git Community Book and other resources...
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changing the font colour of the
> taskbars in gnome? You have to hack a gtkrc file! In KDE3 you had a
> menu/kcontrol option to set font colours manually, in KDE4 it is handled by
> a plasma theme.
Newer GTK+ themes allow color mappings too, though I doubt it would
ever be applied to cha
elopers to write great applications *today*.
I'd much rather see a *less* extended JS engine in GNOME than adopt
the mess of engine-specific JS features that exists in the browser
world.
But I guess I'm just a day-dreamer ;)
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just in the name of giving less-technical people a better chance to
contribute? Or will they (as it looks to be already) flock in to
multiple directions where they can use tools *they* feel are up to the
task.
After all, it's not good if the only thing contributed to the proje
s. After all, there's
going to be a push for cutting the deprecated stuff soon enough
anyway, so it would be good to get a head start on that...
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2008/7/30 Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 12:55 +0300 schrieb Kalle Vahlman:
>> 2008/7/28 Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Dave Neary wrote:
>> >
>> >> In general, I'd hate for "this ap
e
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> actually stable.
Yeah, given that the stable 1.0 release is aimed for 2.24 but has a
disclaimer that if the quality is not ok it'll be punted to 2.26, I
would consider it quite reasonable to wait for 1.0 release until
opening the doors...
Vala has been eagerly adopted already, so it s
at for
discussions (just like Jason did), not just stating the opinion which,
while probably interesting, doesn't really help advancing the "cause".
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> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:38 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>> 2008/6/18 Matthew Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > I think I'm correct in saying the GConf approach is preferred, but are
>> > there use case
n't be a part of gtk_init(),
that way it'd be supported not only in GNOME but in every GTK+ app.
After all, the ability to define initial window size can be quite
handy for any application. Specially in scripting situations.
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image of it...
I've used it with svn trunk succesfully, but never dared to try
branches. Is it already usable with svn branches?
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fonts installed, but I suppose for example artists
would disagree with that.
I wonder if fontconfig has flexible enough configuration system to
allow per-application configuration (in the spirit of gtkrc for
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nly have the translations of your current locale loaded
into RAM so by deleting all the others you only save disk space. AFAIK
that should be safe to do though.
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2008/2/12, Andre Klapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 19:58 +0200 schrieb Kalle Vahlman:
> > I suggest people either convert to "doing the ports" camp (yes I'm
> > looking at the list[1] for something within my power to port), to
> >
g the ports" camp or at least stop acting like gio already
didn't make it.
There's people determined to make this work and working hard to do
that, let's rather support them than make them feel rejected.
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"recommended software" and keep it totally
separate from the dependancy list.
These are of course, just my two small units of currency.
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question[1] might be more fruitful.
[1] Seems like it really is a Fedora thing. Etch, Gutsy and apparently
Gentoo too all have it
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2007/9/23, Ali Sabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 9/23/07, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2007/9/23, Ali Sabil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I think as well that mercurial is very easy to use compared to git,
> >
> > I don't get this
or a
> bzr branch.
I don't see the big issue with this. git-svn is also only the glue
from svn to git, all other work is done on the git repository as
usual.
> git looks like a patchwork from my point of view, it reminds me
> another very popular and ugly tool commonly used : autotoo
o the central repo, the
need for the access becomes less of an issue. Thus helping people keep
patient with the accounts lag, possibly even making it unneccessary
for some.
So, in my opinion, GNOME does need DSCM as a *part* of the solution
for the current problems.
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> On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 05:22:30PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > I'd rather see some gravity settings ("always try to go towards the
> > left edge"), since that's where you'll want to have the applets
&
idth,
unless some special "keep me next to that guy"-states exist.
I'd rather see some gravity settings ("always try to go towards the
left edge"), since that's where you'll want to have the applets
anyway, on the edges.
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http://www.davyd.id.au/articles/debugging-gnome-applets.shtml
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integrated and so on). Any decently written wm should be
just fine with GNOME.
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task bar, plus spatial information. Not a bad
idea, now what we need is someone interested to make a proto version
and take it to usability-list for comments.
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application.
Having a sort of comment field (like .desktop files have) would be
nice *if* the window manager has a reasonable place to show them (or
rather the option of not showing them).
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admit that my usage of the API is not very wide.
But I haven't encountered any problems either[1], just speed speed speed ;)
I'd say that getting cairo 1.4 would be critical for GNOME 2.18,
otherwise we will have yet another six months of less-than optimal
performance (and we a
ms... it's probably about the most (unintentionally)
> > > undiscoverable feature on our entire desktop.
> >
> > BTW, the applications menu already has such context menus.
>
> I know. And they need to die a horrible death :)
This could be achieved by the slab menu, pe
t it does and what it looks
like. Could someone find a better one or write a small summary of it
(more than how stable it is and how much it was tested).
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ngs you to
higher level menu so it would either require a double press
*sometimes* (creating a web of confusion unless you spot that there
is this funny icon that caused it) or some totally different method
making it very undiscoverable.
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> On 12/27/06, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2006/12/27, Danilo Šegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I am against having more than one way of accessing source code for
> > > GNOME source code.
anslators/documentors that they can push changes with and then allow
projects to migrate to SCM close to their heart and that fits that
particular project.
The only weak link left is the burden imposed on the admin team. I
don't have an answer to that.
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ould do it in three, but that's
another thing.
* Does not account for loss of income due to misspent work time. ;)
/me just wanting to say "it's really not that hard once you get the hang of it"
P.S. Note that I'm not against wrapping this in a simple sound-playing API
--
as a big extension and you can't move it.
I'd also like to see this in action on a 800x600 screen, that'd be
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ctive community
c) doesn't mean that half of the now-working stuff suddenly won't work
As always, there is little point on carrying on lengthy conversations
about fabled rewrites of this and that to the [insert favour here]
language. Just go and write it, let's see how it'll work out!
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2006/8/2, Jan de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:26 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons-design.html
> >
> > in "Problems to avoid" there reads
> >
> > "Do not include mea
p://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons-design.html
in "Problems to avoid" there reads
"Do not include meaningful text in icons."
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Or just dump the button and rely on the window manager (yeah, IIRC
user testing proved that one wrong too...).
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promoting the 52 languages and not really the cool stuff.
And you are exactly right that for People, we only should market one
language. The one they want to use.
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for 52 different languages", but maybe in a separate sections for
users and those that are interested in the platform.
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d/video conversions and other predefined
non-interactive actions (not, for example, writing a document).
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launch way faster than bonobo version too after a
quick test :)
(though that might be 2.14.1 vs CVS too I guess)
The patch is here:
http://www.openedhand.com/~iain/gnome-terminal-gets-on-the-bus.patch
and is also attached.
lots of love
to
iain
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I think this whole discussion is silly and truly hope that GNOME will
be GNOME in the future too (and not some trend-chasing project that
changes name every decade just to keep it hip and market-friendly).
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> On 4/19/06, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 4/19/06, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Please, don't take the 3.0 version lightly, only as a way to improv
rm legacy-free).
It's should not be ok to just say "well there's the fifth-toe/third
party apps for that" forever.
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erings are just slightly less advertising than simply
spamming your PR stuff into a list. I know this is the best medium to
reach for guys in this area, but still I think that it's not
approperiate for a development list to include (what I perceive to be)
adverstisments. There is enough noise
layout for widgets) to GtkIconView (grid-like
layout for images/text) and even widgets used by spreadsheet
applications.
I'm guessing none of those are what you are looking for, so what is it then?-)
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> Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > On 3/15/06, Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have recently acquired a 24" screen and I must say things are not so
> >> simple. Fitt's law works for "
of target. In this
case the distance becomes too large to be practically obtainable but
that's more a flaw in your pointing device than in the actual law...
But of course it's not as beneficial on huge screens due to the
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r any other defaut directory I tell it too for that
> matter), but more that this, to be able to navigate thru the file
> heirarchy like one normally does with Nautilus
Execpt if you use the default mode, which is spatial and with which
the desktop already behaves like "just another
he developers head with an ultimatum "fix it
or crash" :)
It's pain in the arse, but if it makes code better and more correct,
it should it be worth it, right?
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or being secretive when I do or just
let it slide because I'm tweeny-tiny myself and not a big company?
Just because I want it to have more than the one widget themeing
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ght be good
but nobody knows because nobody implemented it.
Which is a shame.
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ce 2) whole site by presing alt-uparrow. Dunno how(if) it works
with other browsers though.
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o end and then few clicks up").
That coupled with the fact that the horizontal position remains even
if you scroll up and down helps more than the compactness of the list
view in my opinion.
/me finding himself "losing" folders upon changing the wideness of
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raw their UI to and
a lisp interpeter for implementing functionality for it.
That way everybody would be happy (using some other DE / OS) !
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that the new (and most of the old) users don't
want to manage files, they just want to have places to look at stuff.
The work done to achieve this is great, but lacking in premeditaded
solutions (ie. "dumbing down" that would benefit the newbies and annoy
Power Users(tm))
/
2005/12/1, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > So what I suggest is to remove all saving options from eog
>
> overkill? might be a good discipline for testing and development (like
> using a one button mouse) but I thin
user will be aware that this UI is not the same one, but accessible
from the eog UI.
This kind of light photo retouching would really have a market, my
wife for example finds Gimp very intimidating, and it's overkill for
the ordinary user.
Thoughts?
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like to see it enabled there too.
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uld be right...), but at least gedit will stop the session shutdown
for confirmation on an unsaved file.
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itor _not_ a word processor.
Besides, if simply hilighting structured text in an editor (for
readability) earns the title of "programmers editor", I will be
browsing the web with my "programmers web browser".
(AFAIK gedit hasn&#x
7;t really a separated effort from what the community is
doing, but rather an extension to it. Or that's my view on it anyway.
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ocus, so binding just "s" to save button would make it
tricky to save files with "s" in their name... That's why they need
the alt modifier to be pressed.
> For me saving an unsaved doc in gedit shows this.
And pressing alt-s indeed activates the save button, ditto for
epiphan
s in the past, but they were never
> applied. We should really propose a fix for 2.14.
I vote for removing it due to lack of usability and replacing with
categorizing window selector applet.
*runs like hell*
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conjure misbehaviour? If so, can someone provide me with one?-)
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So probably gnome-vfs (and any other app not doing those) should be "fixed".
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> > ]
>
> Monty Python is insiders jokes now?
They have always been, as noted by roozbeh:
http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=63
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oo complex to handle and maintain have tought us...
[1] shell piping was the traditional way of programs to talk to each
other, now it is different RPC schemes like dbus. Same thing actually.
[2] anyone up to some dbus interface design/implementation?
*.ImageEditor.LaunchWithFile(s) would be handy
n your session).
I think it would be worth it to actually separate the GNOME loading
and user session loading visually in some way, so the users will know
or can guess that if it takes a minute to load the desktop, it *might*
be the 100 or so mozilla windows saved in their session (so someth
On Apr 5, 2005 8:37 PM, Daniel Borgmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 12:35 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > The screenshot shows far less items on the OSX "panel" than what I
> > have. Also, I have arranged them so that some applets are just a
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he wrong application that was active
(which is my personal number one concern about the model in question)?
After all, the focus does not follow your eyes (and probably not your
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> Lastly, I realize that Gnome is not a democracy. It is still governed by its
> developers and I am perfectly ok with that. But that's not a reason to shut
> off the users out of the procedure and only "use" them for bug reports. It
> roy
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