On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 19:36 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
I agree that we don't really want another shared library, long term.
Luckily, it should be easy to update apps when GUnique becomes part of
some other library, as the code required to use GUnique is pretty
small. As to how we get there,
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 20:03 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Richard Hughes
I also think one of the reasons it was not written with gtk+ as a target
was the level choice i.e. does this stuff belong in gtk+, libgnome,
insert_project_ridley_module_here or some other module.
It's really
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 16:12 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Hi,
I just saw on this page
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/ExternalDependencies
that the Hal version for GNOME 2.17 is 0.5.7, yet GNOME Power Manager
2.17.1 requires Hal 0.5.8. Has the page not been updated yet?
Not
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 18:50 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
Please, don't inflate GNOME dependences on non-technical merit. If
some program can be compiled with library version X, it's NOT OK to
depend on library version X+1 or X+2.
G-P-M is good example: its real dependency is HAL 0.5.6.
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 21:38 +0400, Maxim Udushlivy wrote:
Thanks, Elijah for the reply: it is a bit harsh
Nope, I think Elijah was 100% correct.
Richard.
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My opinions on the Suspend / Sleep / Hibernate / Standby / SuspendToX
naming problems: http://live.gnome.org/GnomePowerManager/SleepNames
From a Ubuntu bugzilla entry:
here's from NOTES from 'hotkey-setup'
When the machine should be put to sleep in some fashion:
KEY_SLEEP signals Suspend to
24th April is the end of new modules proposal period.
Are there any unaddressed concerns or questions regarding
gnome-power-manager that people want to ask?
The query with the notifications has been resolved I believe, as
notifications have are limited to:
* Battery fully charged
* Low power
*
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 13:46 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
The email kinds of read like new-modules-are-chosen-next-week. Don't
know if you meant that, but let me throw out a little clarification
anyway:
A big reason for the change in the module-proposal-method this cycle
was in order to
On 21/04/06, Bryan Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's always hard to be everything to everyone. Just like other
applications that have been replaced we probably need a solution for
that transition. What are your ideas on how to handle all the current
battery applet users?
Surely
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 17:20 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
Or what about BSD or other systems?
They will have more incentive to port HAL to their OSes, which is a Good
Thing for everyone. Also, if someone wanted to create a new module to
maintain the battstat applet separate from
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 11:04 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 15:52 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 14:03:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
if you have the g-p-m icon on your systray, it makes a lot of sense to
me to position the notification on that icon, so that
Is there a draft HIG guidelines on the positioning of libnotify
arrows?
NetworkManager has the point at the center of the notification icon,
but gnome-power-manager points to the outside of the icon.
The reason I'm asking is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338638 wants a fix for the
On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 15:40 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
My suggestion would be to not do the positioning calculation yourself,
and let the notification stuff handle this itself. You can pass in the
widget that you are using for the notification icon, to the _new () API
call, and it will
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 19:13 +0200, Danny Kukawka wrote:
snip other stuff
IMO the idea to start g-p-m in gdm is not really a good solution if you use
more than one desktop environment - a cross desktop solution would be much
more better.
Generic freedesktop-type DBUS API calls for stuff
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 11:47 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
I agree it's worthwhile renaming g-p-m's session bus interface from
org.gnome.PowerManager to org.freedesktop.PowerManager after discussion
and review on xdg-list. Richard, you should raise this on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] describing what the
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 18:02 +0200, Holger Macht wrote:
No, KDE people are definitely not pleased with their current
implementation. They still use klaptop by default which is nearly
completely unmaintained.
Maybe Richard never heard KDE guys saiing that they want a cross desktop
daemon, but
it in the core package set for dapper.
gnome-power-manager depends on DBUS, HAL, cairo, and libnotify (is
really optional but thoroughly recommended).
So, what do you all think?
Richard Hughes.
[1] http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-power-manager/
[2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomePowerManager
[3]
http
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 21:29 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:47:12PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
Since the original announcement mail about gnome-power-manager, we have
moved the mailing list to gnome.org, are now hosted on gnome.org, and am
starting to integrate
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 19:56 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 14:47 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 21:29 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:47:12PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
Since the original announcement mail about gnome
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 20:52 +0200, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:56:50 +, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 14:47 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 21:29 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:47:12PM +0100, Richard Hughes
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 13:57 -0700, Corey Burger wrote:
On 4/9/06, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/9/06, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaap Haitsma wrote:
Richard,
As far as I understand the code of GPM splitting up GPM in a daemon
and a notication area
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 19:50 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 21:44 +0100, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
snip
Since arg parsing/handling is different for single-instance apps
(certain kinds of arg don't make sense for instances after the first,
such as --display) gtk could offer a
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 22:03 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
- power monitors down after ... (we should interact with g-p-m if it is
available, else handle it directly)
This was moved to gnome-power-manager by Jon, as monitor DPMS control
was considered more of a power thing than screensaver thing.
On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 18:23 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
+ gnome-power-manager: people like it, but some mor work is needed,
and more integration should be done. It won't go in for 2.14, but
we'd like to see a good integration work starting soon for 2.16.
No worries. Does this mean I
On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 10:53 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 2/11/06, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 18:23 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
+ gnome-power-manager: people like it, but some mor work is needed,
and more integration should be done. It won't go
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:58 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
I'd like to wait for 2.16 for gnome-power-manager. It looks great, but
it doesn't look integrated enough to me, yet. Do we need to rush to
accept a module in the desktop set? I don't think so. Many distributions
will use it anyway. We
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 13:38 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi Richard,
On Fri, February 10, 2006 13:27, Richard Hughes wrote:
I guess if g-p-m is not a blessed module, then the string and UI
freeze no longer applies -- or is the decision not yet made?
No decision taken for now: the release
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 20:41 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
If users want to get a dialog of the power status for all of their
devices we should offer this functionality somewhere else, perhaps
in the power management properties (Mouse Power: Good/UPS Power:
Good, 14 minutes).
I'm not sure the
Seeing as there's been so much good new stuff, and *lots* of bugfixes,
I've done a release today. Yes, I know, 2.13.5 was weeks ago, but
2.13.90 is round the corner. :-)
Files are in the usual place,
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-power-manager/2.13/
Thanks for everyone for
On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 19:26 +0800, James Henstridge wrote:
There's just a lot of corner cases and I do think these justify g-p-m if
we want the right user experience. All this is about policy and thus
don't belong in HAL. Btw, is it now more clear that we need the policy
piece in the desktop
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 14:19 +0800, James Henstridge wrote:
snip
This always seemed a bit weird to me. Is there any reason to choose
this form of integration.
Wouldn't it have been better to make gnome-screensaver listen for the
HAL power management events directly, and lock the
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 14:26 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
Do you think I can update .cvsignore files on same (hopefully most)
modules for Desktop and Developer Platform without asking permission to
maintainers and/or opening relevant bugs on bugzilla?
For me, adding stuff is no problem. I would
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:18 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Yes.. someone needs to code up the support I rambled about
plus add it to g-p-m (and make sure the g-p-m maintainer
agrees so to :-). Right now it's just ideas to support various
not-so-interesting-but-still-important scenarios. For
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 10:17 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote:
On Wed, 2006-18-01 at 23:14 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
pragmatism, before we commit to path that none of our vendors or any
other desktops want to share.
In all fairness, I know that at least Ubuntu Dapper is using g-p-m. No
idea
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:15 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote:
snip
I plan to patch gnome-applets soon though, so that it uses the new
names in gweather.
snip
So what's the easiest way for a maintainer to scan his src/ directory
identifying the old names, and suggesting replacements?
For instance, for
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
[1] gnome-power-manager and sabayon have not been having recent and
regular releases, which would be easy to fix, but could be a cause of
worry if not done soon for the upcoming releases.
I've been waiting for HAL 0.5.6 to be released for
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 09:21 +0100, Mattias Eriksson wrote:
snip
I don't have a perfect solution. But one (not totaly sucky) solution
could be a solution where special folders are defined in a gconf-setting
(system/gnome/folders/Pictures are set to the path to the Pictures
folder, or a list of
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 14:56 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
By the way, I think Apple translate in the UI (maybe in the Shell
too),
but not on disk. I'm not sure how that looks when you ssh into an
Apple
box. Maybe it's a filesytem thing.
Maybe being a realist here, but we don't currently
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 23:00 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
snip
+ gnome-power-manager: I don't remember much discussion. What do you
think? Is it well-tested?
+ gnome-screensaver: people want this. I'd say we should go with it and
I believe it's the general consensus, but maybe some people
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 14:52 +, Alan Cox wrote:
On Gwe, 2005-12-30 at 13:27 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
I pondered this a few months ago -- we need a small application that
when hardware is inserted (HAL event) can query a set of xml descriptors
and then prompt the user with a libnotify
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 15:56 +, Alan Cox wrote:
On Gwe, 2005-12-30 at 15:20 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
Ahh, I was talking more about firmware like wireless card firmware, that
all you have to do is bung it in /lib/firmware and the card magically
works. Maybe I've missed the point
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 20:17 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
Hi everyone,
* List of developers *
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=gnome-power-manager
No users are marked as being developers of this project; please contact
the bugmasters and let us know who to mark as such (see also this
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 10:29 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 22:01 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
GNOME Power Manager is a session daemon for the GNOME desktop
environment that makes it easy to manage your laptop or desktop system.
I think this is crucial technology. I
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 03:24 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:56:31AM +0800, Trent Lloyd wrote:
From screenshots I saw, i beleived it should be able to show battery
icons for other devices, mice, UPS, etc, the battery applet can't do
this?
There's no reason it
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 15:11 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 17:10 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
Quoting Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The icon is configurable to whether it stays in the tray whilst
charging / discharging, low (still need to fully code this), not full
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 17:49 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
Punted to 2.13/2.14
* eggcups: this was pushed very late, and partially as a result there
* productivity/office suite: the discussions about where this would
I'm guessing gnome-power-manager[1] and gnome-screensaver fall into the
2.14
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