Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2011-01-05 Thread Calum Benson
On 25 Dec 2010, at 10:40, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > also, VirtualBox supports GL passthrough, AFAIR. It does, but gnome-shell has never worked in VirtualBox using this feature. Compiz works up to a point. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation Ireland Lt

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2011-01-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 03 janvier 2011 à 11:20 -0500, Owen Taylor a écrit : > > This is just not true. Widespread chipsets like the ATI RS690, which > > should be more than recent enough, don’t cut it. > > In what sense? A rs690 should be fine leaving aside the possibility of > bugs with the driver versions yo

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
> lot. I've also seen lots of people running virtualized GNOME desktops as > VMs under Windows in production. It's used Linux on Linux as well. In particular if your desktop is a guest you can take it with you on your laptop then put it on a box with a bit more welly when not travelling. Alan ___

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2011-01-04 Thread Guido Günther
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:33:12AM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 11:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 10:40 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > > > Well, none of the currently available virtualization solution does it > > > > correctly. Now

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2011-01-03 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 10:47 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 00:09 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > > I doubt we can make definite statement here as it involves quite a lot > > of other system components. Netbook with Intel Atom and the on-board > > graphics works ok

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 11:33 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > On a related but different side of affairs, good luck getting GNOME > > Shell to work on a thin client, as well. As soon as you have a bit of > > network latency, AIGLX is not usable, and other solutions like VirtualGL > > are

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 11:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 10:40 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > > Well, none of the currently available virtualization solution does it > > > correctly. Now what? > > > > incorrect: GL passthrough in QEMU allows to run the MeeGo

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 10:40 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > Well, none of the currently available virtualization solution does it > > correctly. Now what? > > incorrect: GL passthrough in QEMU allows to run the MeeGo netbook user > experience, which is based on Mutter and Clutter, exa

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Arun Raghavan
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 23:30 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: [...] > if you want comparisons, you should be looking at how compiz and kwin > perform on the same architecture, and see if mutter/gnome-shell are > lagging behind. there is no reason why they should, and we recently > tested mutter with it

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 10:19 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:30:08PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > 60+fps or 30 fps are utterly meaningless numbers. > > > > the only number you really want to use is the vsync of your monitor: > > anything more and you're just wasting pow

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 10:47 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 24 décembre 2010 à 23:30 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > > * Minimum CPU configuration for software rendering mode under swrast > > > and llvmpipe (useful for VMs) > > > > no, that's not useful *at* *all*. > > > > VMs

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 25 décembre 2010 à 00:09 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > I doubt we can make definite statement here as it involves quite a lot > of other system components. Netbook with Intel Atom and the on-board > graphics works ok and that should be about the slowest 3D hardware > delivered in the

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-25 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:30:08PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > 60+fps or 30 fps are utterly meaningless numbers. > > the only number you really want to use is the vsync of your monitor: > anything more and you're just wasting power and resources. > > also, you *really* don't want sustained up

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-24 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 16:57 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > * Minimum OGL requirements to launch clutter these are written down in every announcement I send for any Clutter release, and in the README file of Clutter: • OpenGL ≥ 1.2 + multi-texturing *or* OpenGL ≥ 1.3 anything else (shaders,

Re: Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-24 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! (Note that might be better suited on gnome-shell-list...) > * Minimum OGL requirements to launch clutter OpenGL >= 1.2 + multi-texturing, OpenGL|ES 1.1 or OpenGL|ES 2.0 (from clutter release notes, I don't think that is interested for an end-user). > * Minimum Intel/ATI/nvidia chipset model

Minimum system requirements for GNOME Shell

2010-12-24 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello, I was wondering what the minimum system requirements for running GNOME Shell in a usable manner are/will be. I was only able to find vague statements saying "all computing devices in the last 4-5 years"[1], etc[2]. IMO, this ambiguity has led to a lot of uncertainty among people about wheth