Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-23 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hello all, We couldn't reach an agreement and the idea didn't have too much support from long time community members, so I'm dropping this proposal for now and therefore not taking an OPW intern. Thanks all for the feedback and time. Cheers, Carlos Soriano __

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Allan Day
Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: ... > I understand what you mean with removing "community maintained", but can be > misleading for others. Let me explain: > developer.gnome.org is still maintained by the community, but they go through > a review process, and gives control to the maintainers. > Lik

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Michael Hill
Hi Michael, On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I'm really thinking of jhbuild specifically here. I don't think this is > a more general issue for us. > > What advantages do you see in this page over GnomeLove/BuildGnome? > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-lis

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses
On 20/03/15 14:49, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I think the main thing missing from GnomeLove/BuildGnome is a big warning not to use --nodeps or 'jhbuild buildone' before 'jhbuild build'... it's incredible how many helpless users we have on IRC who don't realize that you need to build dependencies.

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 09:54 -0400, Michael Hill wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > Having multiple conflicting tutorials is confusing to new > contributors, > and harmful when those two tutorials are incompatible. > > > Disclaimer: I

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses
Thanks for the feedback. On 19/03/15 14:07, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: <...> I would just add a section like "Contribute to Gnome". I like that idea. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
os Soriano - Original Message - From: "Magdalen Berns" To: "Carlos Soriano Sanchez" Cc: "Allan Day" , "desktop-devel-list" , "gnome-doc-list" Sent: Friday, 20 March, 2015 1:33:18 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Magdalen Berns
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < csori...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi Magdalen, > > Thanks for your kind words. > Still people like Allan and other people did a lot of work on this as well. > I can provide my feelings when started contributing and personal vision, > but they

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
; , "desktop-devel-list" Sent: Thursday, 19 March, 2015 3:37:18 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org Hi Carlos, On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < csori...@redhat.com > wrote: I am not testing only how

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Hill
Hi Carlos, On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < csori...@redhat.com> wrote: I am not testing only how a beginner person that came to a hackfest, given > a tutorial on jhbuild and fedora distro, how it successfully builds. > This is only the tip of the iceberg. Jhbuild is jus

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
to Gnome. Cheers, Carlos Soriano - Original Message - From: "Michael Hill" To: "Michael Catanzaro" Cc: "desktop-devel-list" , "gnome-doc-list" Sent: Thursday, 19 March, 2015 2:54:33 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Hill
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Having multiple conflicting tutorials is confusing to new contributors, > and harmful when those two tutorials are incompatible. Disclaimer: I am not a jhbuild beginner. Please find an example other than jhbuild for harmful incompatible

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 07:17 -0400, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > I finished, and I linked BuildGnome on GnomeLove as the *official* > guide. > One month after that Ryan Lortie write a full jhbuild guide in > HowDoI/Jhbuild because he thought there were no guide for jhbuild! > He is a experienced

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
y, 19 March, 2015 1:42:13 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org On 17/03/15 13:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > Hi, > > So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I > would like to make this proposal. &

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 13:42 +0100, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote: > On 17/03/15 13:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > > Hi, > > > > So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I > > would like to make this proposal. > > Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses
On 17/03/15 13:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this week, s

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Magdalen, Thanks for your kind words. Still people like Allan and other people did a lot of work on this as well. I can provide my feelings when started contributing and personal vision, but they have the experience. So I won't go alone on this if they don't agree =) That would mean I'm missin

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Allan, Thanks a lot for your feedback, disagreement is the best to reach an agreement =) This is not important I don't feel jhbuidl to me in practice very different. We do the same with git. What I want is creating an assistant (like a GtkAssistant,

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue > to be a problem... > > New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... I'm not sure why this is an issue... it is perfectly acceptable for you to manage the GnomeLove area of the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
Magdalen Berns wrote: ... >> New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the >> appropriate one given that the wiki >> is not official. > > Echo this. The developer.gnome jhbuild instructions are quite misleading > because they are not up to date. Yet, this is where newcom

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi Allan, On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < csori...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi Allan, > > So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before > continue to be a problem... > > New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the > approp

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
rs, Carlos Soriano - Original Message - From: "Emmanuele Bassi" To: "Carlos Soriano Sanchez" Cc: gnome-doc-l...@gnome.org, "desktop-devel-list" Sent: Wednesday, 18 March, 2015 1:09:04 PM Subject: Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to develop

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Allan, So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue to be a problem... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the appropriate one given that the wiki is not official. i.e. people say: it's a wiki, just modify it! Which is true, b

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
Hi; On 17 March 2015 at 12:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: > So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I > would like to make this proposal. > Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask > > So I would want to have feedback on this idea

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: ... > So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I > would like to make this proposal. > Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask > > So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this week, since I will

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-17 Thread Daniel Mustieles GarcĂ­a
Completely agree with this idea :) 2015-03-17 16:31 GMT+01:00 Magdalen Berns : > +1 > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < > csori...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I >> would like to make this prop

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-17 Thread Magdalen Berns
+1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez < csori...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi, > > So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I > would like to make this proposal. > Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask > > So I would

Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-17 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this week, since I will take a intern from OPW for it, and the