Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-26 Thread Willie Walker
Thanks Shaun! Just to confirm: you are on board with the proposed solution for GNOME 2.16 as outlined in the discussion and implemented by the patches for bug 348630 and bug 348643? For GNOME 2.18, a task will be to to a better job on setting accessibility preferences. The Ubuntu folks have do

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-26 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:34 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: > On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:14, Shaun McCance wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 05:26 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > > > In the spirit of keeping the Orca migration decoupled from the > > > accessibility properties dialog rede

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:14, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 05:26 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > > Hi All: > > > > In the spirit of keeping the Orca migration decoupled from the > > accessibility properties dialog redesign, Bill Haneman has created > > patches for control-center and g

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-26 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 05:26 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > Hi All: > > In the spirit of keeping the Orca migration decoupled from the > accessibility properties dialog redesign, Bill Haneman has created > patches for control-center and gnome-session: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-26 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: In the spirit of keeping the Orca migration decoupled from the accessibility properties dialog redesign, Bill Haneman has created patches for control-center and gnome-session: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348630 (control-center) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34864

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-25 Thread Willie Walker
BTW, I have my session set up to always launch Orca via the "Startup Programs" GUI and it works fine. I haven't tried it with GOK or Dasher, though. Will On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 14:48 +1200, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bill Haneman wrote: > > ... > > I seem to recall

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 14:48 +1200, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bill Haneman wrote: > > ... > > I seem to recall that there was a reason why we didn't use 'startup > > programs' before. Can't remember what it was... but I seem to > > remember looking at and rejecting

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bill Haneman wrote: > ... > I seem to recall that there was a reason why we didn't use 'startup > programs' before. Can't remember what it was... but I seem to > remember looking at and rejecting that before. Maybe because we > wanted the ATs to launch first? Or i

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 7/24/06, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean FC6 will not be GNOME 2.16? It will be 2.16 - except for new modules which are not yet in FC. Of course, most (all ?) of the new modules under consideration are available in Fedora Extras anyway. Matthias __

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Willie Walker
Does this mean FC6 will not be GNOME 2.16? Will On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 19:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Whatever solution you choose in the end, please make sure that > it will continue to work with gnopernicus (it was too late for us to > replace gnopernicus by orca for FC6) > > Matthias >

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
Whatever solution you choose in the end, please make sure that it will continue to work with gnopernicus (it was too late for us to replace gnopernicus by orca for FC6) Matthias ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of desktop-devel-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Tomboy in Desktop (David Nielsen) >2. Re: dbus building pains (Jason D. Clinton) >3. Re: Proposed Orca Migration (Willie Walker) >

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Peter Korn
Hi Sean, Will, If I might chime in... I think either of Will's proposals is fine for GNOME 2.16, with a slight preference to #2 - to move users to launching AT at startup just like the launch other apps at startup. Calling out "screen reader", "screen magnifier", and "on screen keyboard" does

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Shaun: I think we've all agreed that we want to replace Gnopernicus with Orca and I think we all agree that the accessibility dialog needs work. I do not believe the work for the two must be coupled. If I understand your primary concern with the migration, it's that the user who has configure

Re: Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 19:20, Shaun McCance wrote: > Doing Orca right in 2.16 will require some changes in core > Gnome modules. Unfortunately, the feature and UI freeze is > today. I'd like to outline a proposal for getting Orca in > this release cycle. > > First, I don't know which module is re

Proposed Orca Migration

2006-07-24 Thread Shaun McCance
Doing Orca right in 2.16 will require some changes in core Gnome modules. Unfortunately, the feature and UI freeze is today. I'd like to outline a proposal for getting Orca in this release cycle. First, I don't know which module is responsible for starting accessibility tools on log in. Somebod