On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 14:07 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> Is it possible to update commit messages in git?
Using git-commit --amend
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On 9/19/07, Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:02 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> > There is no rational reason why GNOME would need both ChangeLog and svn log.
>
> In the end it really depends on the maintainer. Yours truly won't take
> patches for his mo
Hi,
On 9/19/07, Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 9/18/07, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That is simply not true. Checkout KDE
> > (http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/), Python
> > (http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/) or SDL
> > (http://www.libsdl.org/cgi
Hi
On 9/17/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Callum McKenzie wrote:
> > For some modules, like gnome-applets or gnome-games, with lots of small
> > - loosely related - programs inside, the ChangeLog has a finer
> > granularity than the commit message. The ChangeLog provides a
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 23:06 +0200, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 03:30:25PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
> > In ChangeLog terms, this means
> > religiously hitting "C-x 4 a" in Emacs (or whatever your editor uses)
> > every time you modify a function or bit of code.
>
>
useful or not.. i think it doesnt matter. i mean, some people need it,
want it, whatever and some wont ever read it (like me for example ;) ).
anyway, in order to please the first group and not to have too much work
on something i hardly need (svn log does that for me), etienne and me
hacked a lit
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:02 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> That is simply not true. Checkout KDE
> (http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/), Python
> (http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/) or SDL
> (http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/viewvc.cgi/trunk/) just to take three
> random projects that uses Subversi
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 01:53 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
[...]
> My personal suspicion is that *some* people who don't want to use
> ChangeLog secretly don't want to write a log message longer than a few
> words, which is easier to get away with in an SCM log than ChangeLog.
> Others avoiding Cha
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 01:53 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> I thought "what else uses git?" and decided to pick on Richard,
> http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=packagekit.git;a=log
>
> I would say this log has many too-short entries in it. So there's
> another data point.
I think the maturity of
Hi,
On 9/18/07, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is simply not true. Checkout KDE
> (http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/), Python
> (http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/) or SDL
> (http://www.libsdl.org/cgi/viewvc.cgi/trunk/) just to take three
> random projects that uses Subvers
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 03:30:25PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
> In ChangeLog terms, this means
> religiously hitting "C-x 4 a" in Emacs (or whatever your editor uses)
> every time you modify a function or bit of code.
I have now seen a lot of references to "C-x 4 a" in this thread and th
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 01:24 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
>
> > One reason is: for previous commits. Moving
> > to a generated ChangeLog means losing a certain piece of history
> because
> > many modules have crap log in their history...
>
> Yes. Problem is solved by moving the old ChangeLog. sv
On 9/19/07, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:02 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> >
> > There is no rational reason why GNOME would need both ChangeLog and
> > svn log.
>
> There *is* a clear reason: offline and tarball use. What you really
> mean is that there
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 00:02 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
>
> There is no rational reason why GNOME would need both ChangeLog and
> svn log.
There *is* a clear reason: offline and tarball use. What you really
mean is that there is no rational reason why GNOME can't use
auto-generated ChangeLog.
On 9/18/07, Federico Mena Quintero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> People are lazy by default, and the lure of
>
>svn commit -m "quick fix"
>
> is just too big (replace svn with your favorite tool; it happens for all
> of them).
That is simply not true. Checkout KDE
(http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/K
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:11 +0200, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
> 2007-09-16 klockan 21:43 skrev Thomas Vander Stichele:
> > When I'm reading a ChangeLog, I want to know what changed in the
> > software overall; what changes the developers are making, and why they
> > are making them. I don't want to
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
We use ChangeLogs because we decided to do so when GNOME started:
http://deve
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:30 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:57 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:50 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > >
> > > With git, it's simple as well. I could, in principle,
> > > prepare my NEWS entry from git log. But the mess
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:57 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:50 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> >
> > With git, it's simple as well. I could, in principle,
> > prepare my NEWS entry from git log. But the messages
> > would no longer be grouped as they are with separate
> >
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:50 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
> With git, it's simple as well. I could, in principle,
> prepare my NEWS entry from git log. But the messages
> would no longer be grouped as they are with separate
> ChangeLog files. What's more, it seems most git users
> don't prefix th
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:50 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
>
> With git, it's simple as well. I could, in principle,
> prepare my NEWS entry from git log. But the messages
> would no longer be grouped as they are with separate
> ChangeLog files. What's more, it seems most git users
> don't prefix
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> Hi
>
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
More than anything else, I use the ChangeLog file to prepare
the NEWS
Hi,
2007/9/18, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 21:43 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> > > Why do all GNOME projects have a Change
2007-09-16 klockan 21:43 skrev Thomas Vander Stichele:
> When I'm reading a ChangeLog, I want to know what changed in the
> software overall; what changes the developers are making, and why they
> are making them. I don't want to read about every single small detail
> they changed while making tho
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 21:43 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> > Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> > Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit mes
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> Hi
>
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
Because they communicate at different levels.
I have yet to see a pro
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 09:51 -0400, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
> > The ChangeLog therefore throws away one of the biggest advantages of
> > DSCM, which is not only offering decentralized source control, or very
> > fast commits, but also much more intelligent branching and merging when
> > compar
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 13:20 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> On Seg, 2007-09-17 at 10:49 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 11:36 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > > Le samedi 15 septembre 2007 à 18:19 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Of course no proje
On Seg, 2007-09-17 at 10:49 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 11:36 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > Le samedi 15 septembre 2007 à 18:19 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> >
> > > Of course no project using git maintains ChangeLog.
> >
> > Why? You could update the ChangeLog
Hey,
Callum McKenzie wrote:
> For some modules, like gnome-applets or gnome-games, with lots of small
> - loosely related - programs inside, the ChangeLog has a finer
> granularity than the commit message. The ChangeLog provides a coherent
> story for the sub-module - something the commit messages
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:11 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le lundi 17 septembre 2007 à 10:49 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
>
> > generating a ChangeLog from the git log is something that should be done
> > at release time, when you are preparing the tarball, as the users of the
> > package h
Le lundi 17 septembre 2007 à 10:49 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> generating a ChangeLog from the git log is something that should be done
> at release time, when you are preparing the tarball, as the users of the
> package have no access to the git repository history.
looks like we don't ha
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 11:36 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le samedi 15 septembre 2007 à 18:19 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
>
> > Of course no project using git maintains ChangeLog.
>
> Why? You could update the ChangeLog when commiting changes on git
what's the point? a ChangeLog is usefu
Le samedi 15 septembre 2007 à 18:19 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
> Of course no project using git maintains ChangeLog.
Why? You could update the ChangeLog when commiting changes on git
Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher
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On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 18:44 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> > Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> > Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
> >
>
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 18:44 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> > Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> > Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
> >
>
On 9/16/07, Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> > Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> > Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
> >
>
> Wh
Hi,
On 9/15/07, Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
>
When I've seen projects just dump CVS or SVN log to ChangeLog,
typically t
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 14:00 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In Gnome Scan, i generate ChangeLog using svn2cl. See
> http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-scan/trunk/Makefile.am and ChangeLog:
> target. I also generate TODO from anjuta TODO.tasks. Note that
> generating ChangeLog makes it lag one c
Hi,
In Gnome Scan, i generate ChangeLog using svn2cl. See
http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-scan/trunk/Makefile.am and ChangeLog:
target. I also generate TODO from anjuta TODO.tasks. Note that
generating ChangeLog makes it lag one commit behind. You have to commit
and then update the ChangeLog.
Anyw
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> Hi
>
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
The problem is that centralised RCSs make it hard (no network, or
netw
"Jaap Haitsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
I generally agree, though there's some subtleties:
- Some commit messages aren't exactly suitable or relevant for ChangeLogs.
- Distributed sour
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 00:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
> Hi
>
> Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
> Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
> Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
Because SVN sucks... I'm on a plane, I find a regression in Gtk+ that
Hi
Talking to Daniel "Cheese" Siegel we asked ourselves:
Why do all GNOME projects have a ChangeLog file?
Isn't it redundant when you just save a commit message.
Jaap
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