Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-22 Thread Alan Horkan
y@gnome.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > Alex Graveley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Desktop Architects > Subject: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and > GNOME (Summit mockups) > > Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > --- Michael Sweet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sweet
Till Kamppeter wrote: How will generic options of the PPD file be integrated into the dialog? All on one pane (not so good)? One pane per group? How will the summaries look like? For example how will the dialog look like with a Gutenprint PPD for a high-end photo printer from Epson? The idea is

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-17 Thread Otto Wyss
Michael Sweet wrote: Does the KDE HIG specify button order? The KDE and FLTK HIGs put the cancel button on the right while Apple's HUG puts it on the left. Microsoft's guidelines are all over the place - they show examples with the buttons along the right side of the dialog as well as on the

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-17 Thread Till Kamppeter
How will generic options of the PPD file be integrated into the dialog? All on one pane (not so good)? One pane per group? How will the summaries look like? For example how will the dialog look like with a Gutenprint PPD for a high-end photo printer from Epson? Till Michael Sweet wrote: > Joa

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sweet
Tomasz Janowitz wrote: Michael Sweet wrote: OK, I've finally had a chance to put a demo together that shows the expandable UI functionality with the print dialog. The demo is not yet fully-functional (i.e. no actual printing, the options are made- up), but it does demonstrate the basic idea. Y

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sweet
Joachim Noreiko wrote: --- Michael Sweet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - line up the start of the summaries of collapsed boxes ('Letter', 'All pages' etc) I'm not sure how that would look - the arrow might look out of place or misaligned. You have: Heading: Summary Longer heading: Summary Wha

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2005-12-17 Thread Michael Sweet
Sorry, appears I didn't include this list on my posting... Original Message Subject: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:51:06 -0500 From: Michael Sweet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Ea

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-14 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 17:00 +, Mike Shaver wrote: > Consider this an open invitation for someone to come forward with a > proposal, plan, and patch for the Unix printing experience on Firefox. > It's been an under-owned area, though I think at various times Marco > Pesetti, Chrises Lahey

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Sweet
Till Kamppeter wrote: Michael Sweet wrote: Tomasz Janowitz wrote: Hi. -> Michael Sweet - very good points! I would add: 1) The 'current page' option should be there in a print dialog (next to 'all' ?) Agreed. 2) The same with print to file. Actually, I like what KDE does - "Print to

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-14 Thread Till Kamppeter
Michael Sweet wrote: > Tomasz Janowitz wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> -> Michael Sweet - very good points! >> >> I would add: > > >> 1) The 'current page' option should be there in a print dialog (next >> to 'all' ?) > > > Agreed. > >> 2) The same with print to file. > > > Actually, I like what KDE

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)]

2005-12-14 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 17:29, Martin Konold wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 12:22 schrieb Tomasz Janowitz: > > Hi, > > > unfortunately I find both have become a bit "top heavy" and seem > > sluggish on older equipment often found in schools and non-for-profit > > organizations. > > I

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME

2005-12-14 Thread Till Kamppeter
Curtis Hovey wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 10:02 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: > > >>>Today I talked with Frederic Crozat, GNOME packager/maintainer and >>>desktop developer here at Mandriva, and David Barth, vice president for >>>engineering, about the development of the printing dialogs in GNOM

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)]

2005-12-14 Thread Martin Konold
Am Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 12:22 schrieb Tomasz Janowitz: Hi, > unfortunately I find both have become a bit "top heavy" and seem > sluggish on older equipment often found in schools and non-for-profit > organizations. I am not willing to accept this often repeated point without actual number

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Sweet
Daniel F Moisset wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 11:32 -0800, Alex Graveley wrote: Hi, Carl Worth wrote: > PS. These side threads are entertaining, but I do hope we also get > back to Till's original list and we can all work together on designing > a good print dialog. To this effect, here are

Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)

2005-12-14 Thread Daniel F Moisset
On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 11:32 -0800, Alex Graveley wrote: > Hi, > > Carl Worth wrote: > > PS. These side threads are entertaining, but I do hope we also get > > back to Till's original list and we can all work together on designing > > a good print dialog. > > To this effect, here are the mockup

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups)]

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Sweet
Tomasz Janowitz wrote: Subject: Re: [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME (Summit mockups) From: "Piotr R. Sidorowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:15:46

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2005-12-14 Thread Tomasz Janowitz
--- Begin Message --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, All are excellent points. What I would like to see is a sensible paper size selection, based on timezone settings perhaps. It is a safe bet that for US and Canada the default setting should be Letter, for Europe likely A4,