Re: [REPORT][DRAFT] Apache Accumulo April 2020

2020-04-06 Thread Josh Elser
Maybe clarify on the "issues" section that a resolution in sight but it's not done yet. You imply this in other words, but being clear that the trademark issue is "acknowledged by the owner and the PMC is waiting on a fix by that owner" is helpful for someone who is moving through the report qu

Re: accumulo trace from monitor

2020-03-23 Thread Josh Elser
Hadoop provided the CredentialsProviders API as a way to obfuscate passwords from being stored in plaintext on your filesystem. This is just done via an JCEKS file located somewhere on the local filesystem or HDFS. If I was to take a wag, I'd assume that the trace token (username/principal and pas

Re: Replication-related IT failures

2020-01-31 Thread Josh Elser
I'm really upset that you think suggesting removal of the feature is appropriate. More installations than not of HBase (IMO which should be considered Accumulo's biggest competitor) use replication. The only users of HBase I see who without a disaster recovery plan is developer-focused instan

Re: [LAZY][VOTE] A basic, but concrete, LTS proposal

2019-10-31 Thread Josh Elser
Seems fine to me. Any expectations on how upgrades work within an LTS release? How about across LTS releases? Some specific situations to mull over: * Can rolling upgrade in an LTS release (to new patch version) with no downtime. (e.g. 1.9.1 to 1.9.3) * Can any LTS release (1.9.1) be guarant

WALs and HDFS (was Re: Accumulo on Azure - Long Term Monitoring)

2019-10-25 Thread Josh Elser
Forking this off because I don't think it's related to Tushar's original question. HBase and Accumulo both implementation a WAL which can be said to relying on a distributed FileSystem which: 1. Is API compatible with HDFS 2. Guarantees that data written prior to an hflush/hsync() is durable

Re: Help with PR 1333

2019-10-21 Thread Josh Elser
Also, just in case you're feeling this way, any kind of contribution that you want to put together is helpful, welcome and appreciated. Please don't feel like you're unable to contribute because you can't get something "substantial" together. Sometimes it's the smallest or "silliest" changes t

Re: rc2 test question

2019-08-06 Thread Josh Elser
Yeah, this has been sporadically failing since at least 1.7 days. On 7/30/19 1:37 PM, Owens, Mark wrote: Yep, after several continual failures it then started passing. -Original Message- From: Adam Lerman Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:26 PM To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Subject: Re: rc2

Re: Accumulo Website question - I will add these steps to the README for Ubuntu/Pop users.

2019-06-07 Thread Josh Elser
Would be better to add: ``` $ gem install bundler $ bundler install # should automatically install Jekyll for you ``` Using gem to install Jekyll installs it "globally" instead of local to your "bundle" (the accumulo website). This increases the likelihood that you have some version clash of R

Re: NoSQL day summary

2019-05-24 Thread Josh Elser
(Ensuring it goes out to all lists, thanks Artem) Also thank you to CCRi! Missed them in the original message as a sponsor. On 5/24/19 4:24 PM, Josh Elser wrote: (pardon the cross-post -- please reply-list unless there's a good reason to cross-post some more) Hi, While NoSQL day is fre

NoSQL day summary

2019-05-24 Thread Josh Elser
(pardon the cross-post -- please reply-list unless there's a good reason to cross-post some more) Hi, While NoSQL day is fresh in my head, I wanted to share some general information about the event this past Tuesday. We got started around 9:30 AM in D.C., yours truly welcoming everyone, fol

Talk submissions for NoSQL day?

2019-04-22 Thread Josh Elser
Coming back from vacation, I don't see any submissions from the pool of developer's I'd normally expect to see. I was hoping that since this was in the "backyard" for most folks that we'd have enough talks to fill a room for a day. Abstracts were set to close last Friday, but, best as I can se

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - April 2019

2019-04-09 Thread Josh Elser
Some general comments that I suspect the board will ask on their own. If you want to proactively address them, it might keep away some back-and-forth, but it's up to you. * Any prospects on new C/PMC? * An acknowledgement that no decisions are being made at the Hack Day and there will be some

Re: [VOTE] Apache Accumulo 1.9.3-rc2

2019-04-01 Thread Josh Elser
Again, like I included earlier: > (Append ".sha1", ".md5", or ".asc" to download the signature/hash for a given artifact.) On 4/1/19 1:56 PM, Christopher wrote: In what way? On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:54 PM Josh Elser wrote: Your email template is wrong. On

Re: [VOTE] Apache Accumulo 1.9.3-rc2

2019-04-01 Thread Josh Elser
Your email template is wrong. On 4/1/19 1:33 PM, Christopher wrote: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'retelling of "checksums of old"'. On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 12:30 PM Josh Elser wrote: I think Mike's point was your VOTE template does not reflect the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Accumulo 1.9.3-rc2

2019-04-01 Thread Josh Elser
I think Mike's point was your VOTE template does not reflect the retelling of "checksums of old" > (Append ".sha1", ".md5", or ".asc" to download the signature/hash for a given artifact.) On 3/31/19 10:54 PM, Christopher wrote: Mike, We already stopped using md5 and sha1 for the release artif

Re: Combining output of multiple filters/iterators

2019-03-29 Thread Josh Elser
You cannot feasibly hold onto some intermediate batch of nodes in memory. You're invalidating the general premise of how Accumulo iterators are meant to work in doing this. Further, an Iterator can _only_ safely operate within one row of a table. Two adjacent rows may be located on two differen

Re: Adding additional default JVM parameters to accumulo-env.sh boosts performance and prevent crashing of Tservers and masters.

2019-03-22 Thread Josh Elser
Very rarely do JVM GC properties universally apply to all users and workloads. I think it would be better to document why these options helped in your workload. Teach folks how to choose the correct JVM properties for their workloads is a better way forward, than encouraging folks to treat the

Re: Builds

2019-02-05 Thread Josh Elser
I feel like trying to put the Jenkinsfile in a separate branch might cause more headache than it's worth. Happen to stumble on AW's write-up on a similar subject? https://effectivemachines.com/2019/01/24/using-apache-yetus-with-jenkins-and-github-part-1/ On 2/5/19 2:35 PM, Michael Wall wrote:

Re: How to Perform an True Update of a Record?

2019-01-23 Thread Josh Elser
Why are you trying to do this in the first place? When you write a new version of a cell, you are essentially replacing the old value. Leaving the old value in the table and lazily removing it (via compaction) is a core optimization to the write-path for Accumulo (from BigTable itself). I'm ha

Re: 2.0.0-alpha-2

2019-01-17 Thread Josh Elser
YCSB is probably the easiest thing to do workload-specific comparisons. On 1/16/19 11:19 AM, Mike Miller wrote: I think we can start doing that now with the alpha release, I am just not sure how. Did you have any ideas? On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:31 AM Sean Busbey wrote: Has anyone gotten t

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - Jan 2019

2019-01-07 Thread Josh Elser
On 1/7/19 11:26 AM, Michael Wall wrote: Hi Josh, thanks for reviewing. The "PMC Changes" was copied directly from the reporter.apache.org template. The "Committer base changes" was in response to feedback from the board several reports ago asking if all committers were PMC members. I could s

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - Jan 2019

2019-01-07 Thread Josh Elser
Thanks for putting a draft together, Mike. A few suggestions: Please be a little more explicit that Nick was added as a committer. I had to read it twice before realizing what you meant. The report seems fine, perhaps a little light on what the project's current trajectory actually is. Since

Re: Slack for Accumulo

2018-12-10 Thread Josh Elser
Just made one -- I only saw Mike Wall on slack so far (invited him). On 12/10/18 4:31 PM, Michael Wall wrote: Yeah, there are some Apache projects that use slack. Can you create an Accumulo channel at https://the-asf.slack.com? I don't recall what I did to set up my account there, but I did ha

Re: commons-vfs2.jar 2.2 buggy

2018-10-24 Thread Josh Elser
It seems like commons-vfs2 is just a pile of crap. It's been known to have bugs for years and we've seen zero progress from them on making them better. IMO, rip the whole damn thing out. On 10/24/18 12:42 PM, Matthew Peterson wrote: Hello Accumulo, Summary: commons-vfs2 version 2.2 seems to

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-10 Thread Josh Elser
On 10/9/18 2:10 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:52 PM Keith Turner wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 12:53 PM Josh Elser wrote: On 10/9/18 12:44 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:27 AM Christopher wrote: Hi Accumulo devs, I'm thinking about initiat

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-09 Thread Josh Elser
On 10/9/18 12:44 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:27 AM Christopher wrote: Hi Accumulo devs, I'm thinking about initiating a vote next week for a 2.0.0-alpha release, so we can have an official ASF release (albeit without the usual stability expectations as a normal releas

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-09 Thread Josh Elser
oth are similar and start with S. On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 12:03 PM Josh Elser wrote: Thanks, Mike. Didn't RFile summaries show up in 1.9 too? (maybe I'm inventing that) On 10/9/18 11:39 AM, Mike Miller wrote: I think once we collect all the changes in 2.0 (there are a lot) we will

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-09 Thread Josh Elser
rg/blog/2016/11/16/simpler-scripts-and-config.html Rfile Summaries was a big change but happened a while ago. Recently, the new Crypto service and new AccumuloClient builder are some other features that come to mind. On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:05 PM Josh Elser wrote: Frankly, planning a release

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Elser
nd testing, and answering some of these unknowns. > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:28 AM Josh Elser wrote: > > > > I would like to know what the scope of 2.0 is. Specifically: > > > > * What's new in this 2.0 alpha that people that is driving the release? > > * Is th

Re: [DISCUSS] 2.0.0-alpha?

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Elser
I would like to know what the scope of 2.0 is. Specifically: * What's new in this 2.0 alpha that people that is driving the release? * Is there anything else expected to land post-alpha/pre-GA? On 10/6/18 1:36 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: yes alphas please. Do we want to talk about expectations on ti

Re: LoadPlanTest unit test failure on master

2018-09-14 Thread Josh Elser
Nevermind, Christopher has already fixed this it seems.. On 9/14/18 10:10 AM, Josh Elser wrote: I'll tag you in a PR. Trivial fix. Don't sweat it :) On 9/14/18 10:09 AM, Keith Turner wrote: I will look into it.  This branch was outstanding for a long time. Yesterday I merged it

Re: LoadPlanTest unit test failure on master

2018-09-14 Thread Josh Elser
n Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Josh Elser wrote: Color me surprised: this fails for me out of the box on 7ef140ec40c3768859b848350db8c6d6d20f7a56 [INFO] Running org.apache.accumulo.core.data.LoadPlanTest [ERROR] Tests run: 6, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.168 s <<

Re: LoadPlanTest unit test failure on master

2018-09-14 Thread Josh Elser
Nevermind, this is silly: s/TABLET/TABLE/ On 9/14/18 9:11 AM, Josh Elser wrote: Color me surprised: this fails for me out of the box on 7ef140ec40c3768859b848350db8c6d6d20f7a56 [INFO] Running org.apache.accumulo.core.data.LoadPlanTest [ERROR] Tests run: 6, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0

LoadPlanTest unit test failure on master

2018-09-14 Thread Josh Elser
Color me surprised: this fails for me out of the box on 7ef140ec40c3768859b848350db8c6d6d20f7a56 [INFO] Running org.apache.accumulo.core.data.LoadPlanTest [ERROR] Tests run: 6, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time elapsed: 0.168 s <<< FAILURE! - in org.apache.accumulo.core.data.LoadPlanTest

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - July 2018

2018-07-09 Thread Josh Elser
On 7/9/18 4:54 PM, Michael Wall wrote: Josh, I am not clear on what you are suggesting for another action item. Are you suggesting a pass over contributors to add see if anyone should be invited to become a committer or are you suggesting we revisit that every committer becomes a PMC member?

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - July 2018

2018-07-05 Thread Josh Elser
+1 definitely. Especially since the organizers went through the proper TM approval steps. I'd suggest expanding that, in addition to no new committers/PMC members, to include an action item. e.g. Should we make a pass over contributors? Or, is participation "constant" (c=pmc makes this a bit

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release timeline for 2.0.0

2018-06-12 Thread Josh Elser
On 6/12/18 1:20 AM, Christopher wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:46 PM Josh Elser wrote: I'm just trying to point out the fallacy of meeting deadlines when the criteria for "success" is undefined. Why? I proposed the timeline to solicit opinions on it. Use whatever subj

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release timeline for 2.0.0

2018-06-12 Thread Josh Elser
On 6/12/18 10:36 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:46 PM, Josh Elser wrote: I'm just trying to point out the fallacy of meeting deadlines when the criteria for "success" is undefined. If Jira is overburdened, move everything out and have people move thing

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release timeline for 2.0.0

2018-06-11 Thread Josh Elser
y, my summer is going to be very busy regardless. Initially, I was > hoping we could release around September 1st... but then I figured add a > month for dedicated testing and documentation might be nice... and we'd > still release before the summit. > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release timeline for 2.0.0

2018-06-11 Thread Josh Elser
maintained in the draft release notes at https://accumulo.apache.org/release/accumulo-2.0.0/ On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:02 PM Josh Elser wrote: What are the current 2.0.0 features? (Outstanding and completed) On 6/11/18 4:35 PM, Christopher wrote: Hi Accumulo Devs, I've been thinking

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release timeline for 2.0.0

2018-06-11 Thread Josh Elser
What are the current 2.0.0 features? (Outstanding and completed) On 6/11/18 4:35 PM, Christopher wrote: Hi Accumulo Devs, I've been thinking about the 2.0.0 release timeline. I was thinking something like this milestone timeline: Feature Complete : mid-late August Dedicated Testing, Documentat

Re: Number of entries

2018-06-04 Thread Josh Elser
Hi Marcus, Via what means? This information is present on the Accumulo Monitor UI already, lagging only by a compaction happening on relevant Tablets. You can easily look at this data for just about any installation. If via code, I don't believe there is public API (stable) for requesting t

Re: Java (eventually) dropping Serialization

2018-05-30 Thread Josh Elser
Also see the xolstice protobuf-maven-plugin which marries up nicely with the OS properties. On 5/30/18 3:40 PM, Brian Loss wrote: If I understand what you are asking correctly, os-maven-plugin [1] is what you are looking for. It will determine the os name and arch (it puts them in properties

Re: Java (eventually) dropping Serialization

2018-05-30 Thread Josh Elser
On 5/30/18 12:41 PM, Christopher wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:59 AM Josh Elser wrote: On 5/30/18 9:08 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Christopher wrote: I thought this was interesting: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3275924/java/oracle-plans-to-dump

Re: Java (eventually) dropping Serialization

2018-05-30 Thread Josh Elser
On 5/30/18 9:08 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Christopher wrote: I thought this was interesting: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3275924/java/oracle-plans-to-dump-risky-java-serialization.html If the long-term plan is to remove serialization from Java classes (in

Re: Use of Flush Table Operation

2018-04-23 Thread Josh Elser
Can you give some more context? Strikes me as strange to be wanting to change a method which we want to remove (being deprecated). On 4/23/18 6:05 PM, Mike Miller wrote: Quick Survey: Does your project use the flush Table Operation in Accumulo? I am looking into changing the default behavior

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - March 2018

2018-04-09 Thread Josh Elser
On 4/9/18 12:40 PM, Michael Wall wrote: Thanks for reading this Josh. 1 - In my first draft I had no information about Tony but I felt like that was going to prompt questions. I agree contributor is more relevant but he is not listed on the people page. Do we think that matters? I don't th

Re: [DRAFT] [REPORT] Apache Accumulo - March 2018

2018-04-09 Thread Josh Elser
Two minor suggestions: * Strike the "A member of the Apache Nifi PMC" part. The fact that Tony was NiFi PMC member isn't really relevant to the request, is it? IMO, if anything, it's more relevant that Tony is a contributor to Accumulo. * There isn't any discussion about what is coming next --

Re: [VOTE] Accumulo 1.7.4-rc1

2018-03-23 Thread Josh Elser
e. https://github.com/apache/accumulo/blob/b0016c3ca36e15ee4bdde727ea5b6a 18597de0ff/core/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/core/rpc/ ThriftUtil.java#L383 On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:00 PM Josh Elser wrote: I don't have the time to look at these right now. There isn't much speci

Re: [VOTE] Accumulo 1.7.4-rc1

2018-03-22 Thread Josh Elser
I don't have the time to look at these right now. There isn't much special about how Accumulo uses Kerberos either. It's straightforward use via SASL with Thrift. I haven't looked at it since it was passing when I wrote it originally. On 3/20/18 2:32 PM, Christopher wrote: I'm currently lookin

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove tracer service (not instrumentation)

2018-03-17 Thread Josh Elser
? On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:15 PM Josh Elser wrote: I think I'm in agreement with this subset of Mikes. I like the idea long-term. The tracing service is "add-on", and can live outside Accumulo. I don't like the idea of moving the code out and taking away code which is functio

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove tracer service (not instrumentation)

2018-03-16 Thread Josh Elser
I think I'm in agreement with this subset of Mikes. I like the idea long-term. The tracing service is "add-on", and can live outside Accumulo. I don't like the idea of moving the code out and taking away code which is functional today. I am +1 on the idea of building the same functionality o

Re: [VOTE] Switch to GitHub issues

2018-03-13 Thread Josh Elser
+0 since there seems to be such a strong desire to use this that I just don't quite understand :) Thanks to those who worked to clarify the ambiguity/issues that I was worried about previously. On 3/13/18 12:53 PM, Keith Turner wrote: Accumulo PMC, Please vote on initiating the transition f

Re: Accumulo stickers or t-shirts?

2018-03-12 Thread Josh Elser
IIRC, as long as you have PMC approval and you're not profiting off of the swag, it's ok from the ASF point of view. I can't find ASF trademarks documentation on it at the moment, however. On 3/11/18 12:52 PM, Tony Kurc wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone had ever designed and printed either

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-03-07 Thread Josh Elser
directly to ask the question goes a long way.. On 3/7/18 10:55 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Josh Elser wrote: -0 as an initial reaction because I'm still not convinced that GH issues provides any addit

Re: [DISCUSS] status of Hadoop 3 for 1.9.0 release

2018-03-01 Thread Josh Elser
Yeah, if Hadoop has changed their stance, propagating a "use as your own risk" would be sufficient from our end. On 3/1/18 6:06 PM, Christopher wrote: If there's a risk, I'd suggest calling things out as "experimental" in the release notes, and encourage users to try it and give us feedback. O

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-03-01 Thread Josh Elser
After the rest of the discussion, I feel like I need to be explicit (so, I'm sorry if I'm being pedantic and we're already in agreement here): You're planning to document how GitHub tech would be used to make releases on these repositories? And, we're in agreement that JIRA would not be used a

Re: [DISCUSS] tracing framework updates

2018-02-28 Thread Josh Elser
igure out why. I'm trying to think of alternative approaches to using the traces, and honestly, doing a bunch of log aggregation is the alternative I'd have to fall back to, and in some cases recompiling parts of accumulo with new log messages in place. Tony On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 7:18

Re: [DISCUSS] tracing framework updates

2018-02-27 Thread Josh Elser
ly be disappointed to see it removed. There is a bit of a learning curve and startup cost to use it now, but when diagnosing major challenges, it has been an invaluable capability. On Feb 27, 2018 3:15 PM, "Josh Elser" wrote: Wow... that's, erm, quite the paper. Nothing like t

Re: [DISCUSS] tracing framework updates

2018-02-27 Thread Josh Elser
Wow... that's, erm, quite the paper. Nothing like taking some pot-shots at another software project and quoting folks out of context. Does it help to break down the problem some more? * Is Accumulo getting benefit from tracing its library? * Is Accumulo getting benefit from tracing context incl

Re: [DISCUSS] dropping hadoop 2 support

2018-02-27 Thread Josh Elser
+1 AFAIK, this wouldn't have to be anything more than build changes. "Dropping hadoop2 support" wouldn't need to include any other changes (as adding H3 support didn't require any Java changes). Getting in front of the ball to help push people towards newer versions would be a welcome change.

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed formatter change: 100 char lines

2018-02-16 Thread Josh Elser
+1 to not changing min-Java on the release lines that supported Java 7. Let's just cease activity on these branches instead :) On 2/16/18 9:55 AM, Sean Busbey wrote: I'm opposed to requiring Java 8 to build on branches that we claim support running under Java 7. Historically relying on "compile

Re: [DISCUSS] Release 1.7.4 and the 1.9.0

2018-02-16 Thread Josh Elser
SGTM On 2/15/18 11:10 PM, Ed Coleman wrote: I'd like to propose that we start the release process for 1.7.4 and then 1.9.0. I'm willing to be the release manager for both if that would facilitate things. As a strawman - I propose: March 1st - we start the formal release process of 1.

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 2/15/18 6:18 PM, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:08 PM Josh Elser wrote: On 2/15/18 4:56 PM, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: On 2/15/18 4:17 PM, Mike Drob wrote: What do we do if the trial is wildly successful? Is there a migration

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 2/15/18 4:56 PM, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:55 PM Josh Elser wrote: On 2/15/18 4:17 PM, Mike Drob wrote: What do we do if the trial is wildly successful? Is there a migration plan for our currently open issues? We have almost 1000 of them. As Keith said in the other

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 2/15/18 4:17 PM, Mike Drob wrote: What do we do if the trial is wildly successful? Is there a migration plan for our currently open issues? We have almost 1000 of them. As Keith said in the other thread, we don't need to have all the answers up front. You're right, we don't need to have

Re: [DISCUSS] Switch to GitHub issues after trial

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
-0 as an initial reaction because I'm still not convinced that GH issues provides any additional features or better experience than JIRA does, and this change would only serve to fragment an already bare community. My concerns that would push that -0 to a -1 include (but aren't limited to): *

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 2/15/18 12:28 PM, Christopher wrote: Want to spin out a DISCUSS on the desire to switch, Mike Walch? That seems to me like it should be the next step. I thought that's what we were doing.:) This isn't tagged with DISCUSS in the subject (which I know some subscribers of our list filter on)

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
On 2/15/18 11:26 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Josh Elser wrote: We tell users that try to file issues on the "unsupported" issue tracker that they've created the issue in the wrong place and point them to the right issue tracker. Personally I t

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-15 Thread Josh Elser
er finds the GH issues and creates an issue there? What action should the developers take? On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:27 PM Josh Elser wrote: I didn't ask for automated controls here -- human controls are fine. I have already said I am -1 on two concurrent issue trackers. If developers w

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-14 Thread Josh Elser
) I think that makes sense since those are already confusing when filed in the JIRA mixed in with the main repo's issues. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:25 PM Josh Elser wrote: I am OK with committers ONLY using GH issues on all repos (with clear guidance as to what the heck the project is doing)

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-14 Thread Josh Elser
JIRA. This period could be limited to a month or two. On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Christopher wrote: What if we had an interim transition period, tentatively using GitHub to determine it's suitability for our workflows, and shut off JIRA later? On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Josh Elser

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-14 Thread Josh Elser
ed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Josh Elser wrote: I believe I already stated -1 the last time this was brought up. Using two issue trackers is silly. On 2/14/18 3:30 PM, Mike Walch wrote: I want to enable GitHub issues for Accumulo's repos. This is not to replace JIRA but to give contributo

Re: Additional options for issue tracking

2018-02-14 Thread Josh Elser
I believe I already stated -1 the last time this was brought up. Using two issue trackers is silly. On 2/14/18 3:30 PM, Mike Walch wrote: I want to enable GitHub issues for Accumulo's repos. This is not to replace JIRA but to give contributors more options for issue tracking. Unless there are o

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
nt jar? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:31 PM Josh Elser wrote: MAC, in its common state, is probably not something we'd want to include in this proposed tarball. The reasoning being that MAC (and related classes) aren't something that people would need on your "Hadoop Cluster" to ta

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
s of these downstream vendor/community packagers. One way we can do that here is by either documenting what would be needed in a client-centric package, or by providing a script or build profile to create it from source, so that your $dayjob or any other downstream packager doesn't hav

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
shorter would be nice. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Josh Elser wrote: Hi, $dayjob presented me with a request to break up the current tarball into two: one suitable for "users" and another for the Accumulo services. The ultimate goal is to make upgrade scenarios a bit easier by

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
s of these downstream vendor/community packagers. One way we can do that here is by either documenting what would be needed in a client-centric package, or by providing a script or build profile to create it from source, so that your $dayjob or any other downstream packager doesn't have to f

Re: [DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Elser
On 1/5/18 9:55 AM, Keith Turner wrote: Obviously, there are many ways to go about this. If there is buy-in from other folks, adding some new assembly descriptors and making it a part of the Maven build (perhaps, optionally generated) would be the easiest in terms of maintenance. However, I don't

[DISCUSS] Any interest in separate client/server tarballs

2018-01-04 Thread Josh Elser
Hi, $dayjob presented me with a request to break up the current tarball into two: one suitable for "users" and another for the Accumulo services. The ultimate goal is to make upgrade scenarios a bit easier by having client and server centric packaging. The "client" tarball would be something

Re: Test replication

2018-01-04 Thread Josh Elser
You can configure a replication peer which is the "local" Accumulo instance. I think there are some ITs which do this. On 1/4/18 4:13 PM, Mike Miller wrote: Trying to test a fix for the 2.0 Monitor https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-4760 and I wanted to enable replication. Does any

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-06 Thread Josh Elser
On 12/5/17 6:43 PM, Christopher wrote: I was wondering about Hadoop 3 shading and whether that would help us. It would be really nice if it could, or if there was some other class path solution that was easy. I think there are two major issues in this thread. The first is the API problems. The

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-06 Thread Josh Elser
On 12/6/17 2:06 PM, Christopher wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:55 PM Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Josh Elser wrote: On 12/6/17 12:17 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Josh Elser wrote: Maybe a difference in interpretation: I was

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-06 Thread Josh Elser
On 12/6/17 12:17 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Josh Elser wrote: Maybe a difference in interpretation: I was seeing 1a as being source-compatible still. My assumption was that "Deprecate ClientConfiguration" meant that it would remain in the codebase -

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-06 Thread Josh Elser
he old ClientConfiguration and addition of a new ClientConfig class. On 12/6/17 11:29 AM, Keith Turner wrote: On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Josh Elser wrote: 1.a sounds better to me. why? A would be the ideal solution, I think B is the next best if A doesn't work. I need to get the H

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-06 Thread Josh Elser
stigation/experimentation into what works, and deal with it after dealing with steps 1-3 above (but soon after, hopefully). On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 3:58 PM Josh Elser wrote: Another potential suggestion I forgot about: we try to just move to the Hadoop shaded artifacts. This would invalidate t

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-05 Thread Josh Elser
stance zki = new ZooKeeperInstance(cc); The following would not be source or binary compatible. Configuration cc = new ClientConfiguration(file); ZooKeeperInstance zki = new ZooKeeperInstance(cc); On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Josh Elser wrote: On 12/5/17 3:28 PM, Keith Turner wrote: O

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-05 Thread Josh Elser
On 12/5/17 3:28 PM, Keith Turner wrote: On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Josh Elser wrote: Interesting. What makes you want to deprecate ClientConfig entirely? I'd be worried about removing without sufficient thought of replacement around. It would be a bit "churn-y" to introd

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-05 Thread Josh Elser
easing 1.8.x in favor of 1.9.x (they are the same except for new API) * Release 1.9 ASAP * Drop clientconfig in 2.0.0 * Release 2.0.0 early next year... maybe target March On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Josh Elser wrote: Ok, a bridge version seems to be a general path forward. Generall

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-05 Thread Josh Elser
ssage----- From: Josh Elser [mailto:els...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 6:19 PM To: dev@accumulo.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target? Also, just to be clear for everyone else: This means that we have *no roadmap* at all for Hadoop 3 support because Accumulo 2.

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-05 Thread Josh Elser
neously with Hadoop. I kind of like that option, but I don't think it's realistic for our audiences, as it doesn't allow them to manage their upgrade risks, so the shaded "bridge" version seems like the better option. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:19 PM Josh Elser wrote: This is

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-04 Thread Josh Elser
rious what people other than Christopher think (assuming from his comments/JIRA work that he disagrees with me). On 12/4/17 6:12 PM, Christopher wrote: Agreed. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:01 PM Josh Elser wrote: Ah, I'm seeing now -- didn't check my inbox appropriately. I think the

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-04 Thread Josh Elser
(which is going to be a major issue for the project). On 12/4/17 5:58 PM, Josh Elser wrote: Sorry, I don't follow. Why do you think 4611/4753 is a show-stopper? Cuz, uh... I made it work already :) Thanks for the JIRA cleanup. Forgot about that one. On 12/4/17 5:55 PM, Christopher wro

Re: [DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-04 Thread Josh Elser
tibilities (namely, ACCUMULO-4611/4753) I think people are still patching 1.7, so I don't think we've "officially" EOL'd it. I think 2.0 could require Hadoop 3, if Hadoop 3 is sufficiently stable. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM Josh Elser wrote: What branch do we want to

[DISCUSS] Hadoop3 support target?

2017-12-04 Thread Josh Elser
What branch do we want to consider Hadoop3 support? There is a 3.0.0-beta1 release that's been out for a while, and Hadoop PMC has already done a 3.0.0 RC0. I think it's the right time to start considering this. In my poking so far, I've filed ACCUMULO-4753 which I'm working through now. Thi

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving away from Thrift

2017-11-17 Thread Josh Elser
On 11/17/17 10:32 AM, Christopher wrote: On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:21 AM Josh Elser wrote: Did you offer to make the release? See me with commons-vfs a time back. The current issue with Thrift is not the point. The problems we've encountered with Thrift were was provided as backg

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving away from Thrift

2017-11-17 Thread Josh Elser
Did you offer to make the release? See me with commons-vfs a time back. Your proposal seems to me like you're blowing the situation out of proportion. On Nov 16, 2017 23:58, "Christopher" wrote: > The current Thrift issue has already been fixed with a patch. Their PMC > needs to release it, tho

Re: review board

2017-11-01 Thread Josh Elser
Hey Mark, Yup, we're still a CTR project. That should be captured on the website on our governance page and would require a VOTE by the PMC to change. We don't have any enforced means of mechanism to perform reviews. We used to use Reviewboard a bit, but, as of late, more happens on Github w

Re: KerberosToken hell

2017-10-27 Thread Josh Elser
ogs the user in via ugi what you mean with side effects ? Jorge Machado jo...@jmachado.me<mailto:jo...@jmachado.me> Am 27.10.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Josh Elser mailto:els...@apache.org>>: Nearly all components in the Hadoop ecosystem require you to perform a login with your cr

Re: KerberosToken hell

2017-10-27 Thread Josh Elser
Nearly all components in the Hadoop ecosystem require you to perform a login with your credentials when writing Java code. The only exception I'm aware of is ZooKeeper which can automatically perform a login via JAAS. Supporting automatic login via JAAS would be the best path forward here. C

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