Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Martyn Taylor wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Christian Schneider < > ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote: > >> I was not implying that the feature parity with ActiveMQ is a marketing >> goal. I just wanted to show a case where typically in companies market

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Matt Pavlovich
On 12/8/16 11:35 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: I was not implying that the feature parity with ActiveMQ is a marketing goal. I just wanted to show a case where typically in companies marketing pushes for a major release based on a feature set as they think they can sell it better. As an open

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: > I was not implying that the feature parity with ActiveMQ is a marketing > goal. I just wanted to show a case where typically in companies marketing > pushes for a major release based on a feature set as they think they can > sell it bet

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Christian Schneider
I was not implying that the feature parity with ActiveMQ is a marketing goal. I just wanted to show a case where typically in companies marketing pushes for a major release based on a feature set as they think they can sell it better. As an open source project ActiveMQ/Artemis has the luxury to

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Matt Pavlovich
Gotcha.. that sounds good. Thanks. On 12/8/16 11:05 AM, Andy Taylor wrote: I think Christian's issue is not with feature parity being a marketing goal but the fact that you aligned a major bump with a feature set rather than API changes etc. we have had this conversation a couple of times and a

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Andy Taylor
I think Christian's issue is not with feature parity being a marketing goal but the fact that you aligned a major bump with a feature set rather than API changes etc. we have had this conversation a couple of times and altho its a good idea the discussion just goes of on all tangents since everyon

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Matt Pavlovich
Christian- Are there any features or API breaking changes you'd like to see? My #1 goal is to kick off a conversation. I don't think setting goals like "feature parity w/ ActiveMQ 5.x" is a marketing goal. I think it is a user-centric goal. Users use features. For Artemis to be a suitable up

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
I think trying to address everything on your list in a single release is probably a little ambitious. However, a major goal for Artemis is to try to fill many of those feature gaps as possible (or at least offer similar features that address the same use cases). It'd be great if your notes were c

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-08 Thread Martyn Taylor
I agree a major bump should only be required when breakages appear in APIs or incompatability of existing client applications. That doesn't mean we can't have a discussion about what features people would like in upcoming releases. On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > A

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Agree with Christian. It's a bit unfortunate. Regards JB⁣​ On Dec 8, 2016, 07:53, at 07:53, Christian Schneider wrote: >As artemis is an open source project I would not use a marketing like >reason for a new major version (like a certain feature set). >Instead I would use a major version to rem

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-07 Thread Christian Schneider
As artemis is an open source project I would not use a marketing like reason for a new major version (like a certain feature set). Instead I would use a major version to remove deprecated interfaces. So basically to remove stuff in a way that might be incompatible to older clients. For pure feature

Re: [DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-07 Thread Timothy Bish
On 12/07/2016 04:29 PM, Matt Pavlovich wrote: *** Re-sending w/ [DISCUSS] subject tag Kicking off a discussion on what folks would like to see in 2.0.0 release for Artemis. My thought is that we should target ActiveMQ 5.x feature parity in an effort to solidify Artemis in the product sense. I

[DISCUSS] Artemis 2.0.0 target features

2016-12-07 Thread Matt Pavlovich
*** Re-sending w/ [DISCUSS] subject tag Kicking off a discussion on what folks would like to see in 2.0.0 release for Artemis. My thought is that we should target ActiveMQ 5.x feature parity in an effort to solidify Artemis in the product sense. I will detail out specifics from my previous not