Re: ApacheCon Registration Available!

2022-07-13 Thread Jarek Potiuk
I will certainly be there :). I give 3 talks and co-lead the data engineering track with Ismael :) On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 2:45 AM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy wrote: > > Anyone planning to come to ApacheCon? I will be there, and would love to see > you all in person :) > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 3:3

Re: ApacheCon Registration Available!

2022-07-13 Thread Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
Anyone planning to come to ApacheCon? I will be there, and would love to see you all in person :) On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 3:33 AM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > The registration for ONSITE ApacheCon in New Orleans, Louisiana, > October 3-6, is now open. > > This is the first time we have

[VOTE] Airflow Providers prepared on July 13, 2022

2022-07-13 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Hey all, I have just cut the new wave Airflow Providers packages. This email is calling a vote on the release, which will last for 72 hours - which means that it will end on Saturday 16th of July 2022, 23:45 CEST. Consider this my (binding) +1. This is a bit more than regular release of provider

Re: [DISCUSS] - Grouping of concerns

2022-07-13 Thread Vikram Koka
Thank you all for your responses. Dennis, With respect to your concern on the "hard data - numbers" to support the assertion of the audience. I agree that we don't have the hard numbers at this time to support this assertion and I also understand your concern that there is additional burden to an

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Daniel Standish
I don't think it makes sense to deprecate it at this time just to re-add it. It's not necessarily backward incompatibility if you are fixing something that is not functioning as intended / desired. And I'm not sure that we'll really have to break backcompat even if you don't want to interpret it

Re: [DISCUSS] - Grouping of concerns

2022-07-13 Thread Ping Zhang
Hi Vikram, Great thoughts on this. I agree with this: > I am concerned that we are overwhelming our audience segment (1) with the > work and configurations around running Airflow at scale. I would like to see a better separation on 1) how to set up an airflow cluster in production, how to moni

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Vikram Koka
You are absolutely right that it will be very hard to "fix" the SLA as it stands while keeping backwards compatibility. My thoughts on the new / updated SLA mechanism will NOT be compatible, but will address the core need for data timeliness. Hmm, that's an interesting thought on "marking it as de

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Cool to see that people still need SLA in Airflow. I see the points why and they make perfect sense. Glad we discussed it :) Still - WDYT do we want to signal current SLA as "deprecated" now (even if we do not know what will replace it?) - at least as a signal to stay away from it. Or do we want t

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Vikram Koka
- resending below to keep the same thread as Ping's response. My prior response and Ping's were sent at the same time, but I did not two two email threads -- I understand the frustration with the SLA feature as it stands. I struggled with trying to understand this early on and finally understood

Re: [DISCUSS] Airflow Scheduling Delay Metric Definition

2022-07-13 Thread Ping Zhang
Hi Jarek, Yep, it is more useful in the stress test stage before releasing a new version with some extra set up to ensure no scheduler performance degradation due to a release. This can also help to find the scaling limit of the scheduler with a certain SLA, like upper limit of the number of tasks

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Vikram Koka
I understand the frustration with the SLA feature as it stands. I struggled with trying to understand this early on and finally understood how they were broken. Having said that, I believe that Airflow users strongly care about the timeliness and consequently SLAs of their data. I also believe tha

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating SLA feature?

2022-07-13 Thread Ping Zhang
Hi Jarek, Thanks for bringing this up. I agree the SLA feature needs some work. However, I think we want an equivalent SLA feature as it is still very useful. Thanks, Ping On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:42 AM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I keep on being involved in discussions where