Re: apr 0.9.19/apr-util 0.9.18?

2010-10-07 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote: >> Am 05.10.2010 22:58, schrieb Jeff Trawick: >>> >>> does anybody strongly believe that we should get expat fixed in 0.9.x >>> (whether they have time or not)? >> >> /me asking dumb questio

Re: apr 0.9.19/apr-util 0.9.18?

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote: > Am 05.10.2010 22:58, schrieb Jeff Trawick: >> >> does anybody strongly believe that we should get expat fixed in 0.9.x >> (whether they have time or not)? > > /me asking dumb question: > is it much more work than just copying over from 1.3 ?

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
>... [query about svn lists] On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 17:29, Greg Stein wrote: > We do not munge Reply-To on dev@ or priv...@. I'm not subscribed to > users@, so I dunno. > > Commit messages (which originate from the commit script) have a > Reply-To to redirect responses to the dev@ list, to keep d

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:32, Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >... >> Oh boo hoo, you can't reply to the list with just Reply. Get over it. >> Hit "reply to all" and you'll be fine. > > I just love it when people get all rude for no reason at all. That's n

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
We do not munge Reply-To on dev@ or priv...@. I'm not subscribed to users@, so I dunno. Commit messages (which originate from the commit script) have a Reply-To to redirect responses to the dev@ list, to keep discussion off the commits@ list. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:44, William A. Rowe Jr. wro

Re: [Vote] apr-util 1.5.x -> trunk

2010-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 10/7/2010 5:29 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: > > We will still need to make releases on apr-util in the v1.x series, and we > may need to > bump v1.3 to v1.4, etc. For this, we need a properly functional trunk, > otherwise those > following the standard svn conventions face problems. Yes, and no

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Two major consumers of apr are the httpd and svn projects. Many/most of our subscribers are their subscribers. We know how httpd list processing is configured... how is the svn dev@ list configured?

Re: [Vote] apr-util 1.5.x -> trunk

2010-10-07 Thread Henry Jen
2010/10/7 Graham Leggett : > On 07 Oct 2010, at 12:22 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > >> These choices seem skewed to me.  "apr is apr-util/trunk" is a >> different concept than "rename 1.5.x to trunk."  Conceptually, "apr is >> apr-util trunk" whatever we decide. > > I disagree, in the past, we had two

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Mike Meyer
The list already has a header with just the list address in it: List-Post, as per RFC 2369. Adding another one is a waste. Your mailer should have a reply facility that uses the List-Post header. Put it in your UI, and start using it. Then you can quit carrying whether or not the list uses (abuses

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf wrote: >> Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer: >>> >>> For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To >>> header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Dan Poirier
On 2010-10-07 at 04:55, Greg Stein wrote: > No, I think it is because people are tired > of the Reply-To discussion crap and are simply hoping not to have to > deal with it. +1 Internet consensus is that there will be no consensus on this question. Let's not waste time proving that all over aga

Re: [Vote] apr-util 1.5.x -> trunk

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: > On 07 Oct 2010, at 12:22 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > >> These choices seem skewed to me.  "apr is apr-util/trunk" is a >> different concept than "rename 1.5.x to trunk."  Conceptually, "apr is >> apr-util trunk" whatever we decide. > > I disagr

Re: [Vote] apr-util 1.5.x -> trunk

2010-10-07 Thread Graham Leggett
On 07 Oct 2010, at 12:22 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: These choices seem skewed to me. "apr is apr-util/trunk" is a different concept than "rename 1.5.x to trunk." Conceptually, "apr is apr-util trunk" whatever we decide. I disagree, in the past, we had two projects, each with an independent tr

Re: [Vote] apr-util 1.5.x -> trunk

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:26 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 10/5/2010 2:40 AM, Joe Orton wrote: >> Any objection to renaming the apr-util 1.5.x branch to "trunk"?  It is >> the trunk for that tree now. > > Counting up the opinions posted on the list... > >  [ ] Rename 1.5.x to "trunk" >     jo

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 19:12, Guenter Knauf wrote: > Am 06.10.2010 21:40, schrieb Sander Temme: >> >> Please make Reply-To default to the list.  It's a discussion list, >> with discussions taking place on-list.  So responses should go to the >> list. > > ok, since we are 3 now who would like to ha

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf wrote: > Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer: >> >> For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To >> header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of >> the message. > > the list *is* the originator since i