Re: backports/merges

2012-04-09 Thread Rainer Jung
On 08.04.2012 15:28, Jeff Trawick wrote: Perhaps it is just my nature to disagree with everybody when there is some contentious discussion. Or just possibly it is my nature to try to pull apart what was discussed (or yelled), throw away the most extreme aspects, and see if there is anything to

Re: modes of discussion

2012-04-09 Thread Rainer Jung
On 08.04.2012 15:48, Jeff Trawick wrote: Some of the behavior here is embarrassing. Yelling about not following procedures that nobody else even follows as stated, threatening, whining, crudity or at least making fun of objections to crudity, extreme defensiveness, etc. do not reflect well on

Re: modes of discussion

2012-04-09 Thread Ruediger Pluem
Jeff Trawick wrote: Some of the behavior here is embarrassing. Yelling about not following procedures that nobody else even follows as stated, threatening, whining, crudity or at least making fun of objections to crudity, extreme defensiveness, etc. do not reflect well on us or our ability

Re: backports/merges

2012-04-09 Thread Ruediger Pluem
Rainer Jung wrote: On 08.04.2012 15:28, Jeff Trawick wrote: Perhaps it is just my nature to disagree with everybody when there is some contentious discussion. Or just possibly it is my nature to try to pull apart what was discussed (or yelled), throw away the most extreme aspects, and see

Re: svn commit: r1308135 - in /apr/apr-util/branches/1.4.x: ./ CHANGES crypto/apr_crypto.c

2012-04-09 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Sunday 08 April 2012, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 4/4/2012 5:09 PM, Graham Leggett wrote: This type of comment embarrasses both the project and the ASF. If you want to discuss an issue, please discuss the issue. As soon as emails start getting abusive, EOT. Graham Leggett, The

Re: backports/merges

2012-04-09 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 09 April 2012, Rainer Jung wrote: Do you disagree with the procedure and/or my attempt to describe the normal way this is handled? No, I agree and I think it is more useful to include the CHANGES entry in the backport commit than to split it in a second commit. At least that's

Re: modes of discussion

2012-04-09 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Sunday 08 April 2012, Jeff Trawick wrote: Some of the behavior here is embarrassing. Yelling about not following procedures that nobody else even follows as stated, threatening, whining, crudity or at least making fun of objections to crudity, extreme defensiveness, etc. do not reflect

Re: svn commit: r1308135 - in /apr/apr-util/branches/1.4.x: ./ CHANGES crypto/apr_crypto.c

2012-04-09 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
To the list; I'm sorry about the tone of this discussion. I'm sorry about the hostility embedded in my response. For the list participants, Branko and Jeff are right, it doesn't need to be here. I'd respond to one point Stefan raises and then have nothing more productive to add to this dialog.

Re: [VOTE] Release apr-util 1.4.2

2012-04-09 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 02 April 2012, Graham Leggett wrote: On 01 Apr 2012, at 11:06 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: Sorry for being late, but -1 Works fine if linked dynamically with DSOs. But for the static build, httpd segfaults in mod_ssl (backtrace at the bottom of the mail). Since 1.4.1

Re: backports/merges

2012-04-09 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/9/2012 11:04 AM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Monday 09 April 2012, Rainer Jung wrote: Do you disagree with the procedure and/or my attempt to describe the normal way this is handled? No, I agree and I think it is more useful to include the CHANGES entry in the backport commit than to

Re: svn commit: r1308135 - in /apr/apr-util/branches/1.4.x: ./ CHANGES crypto/apr_crypto.c

2012-04-09 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: To the list; I'm sorry about the tone of this discussion. I'm sorry about the hostility embedded in my response. For the list participants, Branko and Jeff are right, it doesn't need to be here.  I'd respond to one

Re: backports/merges

2012-04-09 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 4/9/2012 11:04 AM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Monday 09 April 2012, Rainer Jung wrote: Do you disagree with the procedure and/or my attempt to describe the normal way this is handled? No, I agree and I think it