Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf fua...@apache.org wrote: Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer: For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of the message. the list *is* the originator

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 19:12, Guenter Knauf fua...@apache.org wrote: Am 06.10.2010 21:40, schrieb Sander Temme: Please make Reply-To default to the list.  It's a discussion list, with discussions taking place on-list.  So responses should go to the list. ok, since we are 3 now who would

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Dan Poirier
On 2010-10-07 at 04:55, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: No, I think it is because people are tired of the Reply-To discussion crap and are simply hoping not to have to deal with it. +1 Internet consensus is that there will be no consensus on this question. Let's not waste time proving

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf fua...@apache.org wrote: Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer: For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To header is an originator field, and the list is

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Mike Meyer
The list already has a header with just the list address in it: List-Post, as per RFC 2369. Adding another one is a waste. Your mailer should have a reply facility that uses the List-Post header. Put it in your UI, and start using it. Then you can quit carrying whether or not the list uses

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Two major consumers of apr are the httpd and svn projects. Many/most of our subscribers are their subscribers. We know how httpd list processing is configured... how is the svn dev@ list configured?

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
We do not munge Reply-To on dev@ or priv...@. I'm not subscribed to users@, so I dunno. Commit messages (which originate from the commit script) have a Reply-To to redirect responses to the dev@ list, to keep discussion off the commits@ list. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:44, William A. Rowe Jr.

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:32, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ... Oh boo hoo, you can't reply to the list with just Reply. Get over it. Hit reply to all and you'll be fine. I just love it when people get all rude for no

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-07 Thread Greg Stein
... [query about svn lists] On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 17:29, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: We do not munge Reply-To on dev@ or priv...@. I'm not subscribed to users@, so I dunno. Commit messages (which originate from the commit script) have a Reply-To to redirect responses to the dev@

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-06 Thread Sander Temme
On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote: with almost all other lists we have set the reply-to address to the list, so if you just hit reply then post goes to list as it should be - why the heck is that not true for the d...@apr list?? sure, I only need to take care of it, and hit

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-06 Thread Guenter Knauf
Am 06.10.2010 21:40, schrieb Sander Temme: Please make Reply-To default to the list. It's a discussion list, with discussions taking place on-list. So responses should go to the list. ok, since we are 3 now who would like to have it changed, and the rest seems not to care about, how can we

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:12:28 +0200 Guenter Knauf fua...@apache.org wrote: Am 06.10.2010 21:40, schrieb Sander Temme: Please make Reply-To default to the list. It's a discussion list, with discussions taking place on-list. So responses should go to the list. ok, since we are 3 now who

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-06 Thread Guenter Knauf
Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer: For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of the message. the list *is* the originator since it sends the mail to me, and not you personally, so this is

why do we need this pain?

2010-10-05 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hi all, with almost all other lists we have set the reply-to address to the list, so if you just hit reply then post goes to list as it should be - why the heck is that not true for the d...@apr list?? sure, I only need to take care of it, and hit 'reply to list', but too often I forget about

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-05 Thread Nick Kew
On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:46, Guenter Knauf wrote: Hi all, with almost all other lists we have set the reply-to address to the list, so if you just hit reply then post goes to list as it should be - why the heck is that not true for the d...@apr list?? sure, I only need to take care of it, and

Re: why do we need this pain?

2010-10-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 10/5/2010 5:46 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote: Hi all, with almost all other lists we have set the reply-to address to the list, so if you just hit reply then post goes to list as it should be - why the heck is that not true for the d...@apr list?? sure, I only need to take care of it, and