Camel/Integration track plan

2020-07-01 Thread Zoran Regvart
Hi planners, Maria and myself have put together this plan for the Camel/Integration track. Some of you might have suggestions, if so, please do reach out to us. We're going to run for two days out of three. First day is reserved for sessions, which will be live or prerecorded (based on the

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Onder SEZGIN
Hello, Jbit seems quite promising. Really nice work from gnodet as always. -1 for this one. Even though java has new features, most features are basically in terms of expressions enhancements which enables most expressive coding. ( there are various jsr s but this is how i personally and simply

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Fwiw, I've been investigating translating jdk 14 bytecode into jdk 8 compatible bytecode. There are various changes in the JDK: * new methods: the tool can point to different implementations for the newly added methods * var keyword / switch expressions : this require no change in the bytecode

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
We need a consensus. So discussion is fine. I proposed a formal vote as it is a great way to have a clear evaluation of the consensus. As we are potentially talking about code modification, vote is possible (lazy consensus): https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Andrea Cosentino
We could agree on the beginning of 2021/end of 2020 for dropping JDK 8, I don't think a formal vote is needed for this. Il giorno mer 1 lug 2020 alle ore 09:48 Omar Al-Safi ha scritto: > Yeah that is great! +1 > > Thanks JB! > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre > wrote: > >

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Omar Al-Safi
Yeah that is great! +1 Thanks JB! On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote: > Agree. I would start a formal vote to propose dropping Java8 in Jan 2021, > it would be clear for everyone. > > Regards > JB > > > Le 1 juil. 2020 à 09:44, Omar Al-Safi a écrit : > > > > True,

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Agree. I would start a formal vote to propose dropping Java8 in Jan 2021, it would be clear for everyone. Regards JB > Le 1 juil. 2020 à 09:44, Omar Al-Safi a écrit : > > True, Quarkus is more of a concern and from the discussion so far in the > Quarkus mailing list, change could happen for

Re: [HEADS UP] - Java 8 to be dropped

2020-07-01 Thread Omar Al-Safi
True, Quarkus is more of a concern and from the discussion so far in the Quarkus mailing list, change could happen for them as well, therefore we can delay dropping Java 8 only for a specific time frame to allow some buffer. But we have to agree now that we want to *drop* Java 8 and move to either